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Can we get Nico Okarr at all?

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Can we get Nico Okarr at all?

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AlienEyeTX
05.21.2016 , 08:41 AM | #441
Quote: Originally Posted by IanArgent View Post
I'm using the party jawa as an example somewhat sarcastically. I would no more expect them to make it available again than I would expect them to make the Founder's title available again.

The achievement, though, that is a little annoying. That I would expect them to remove from 100% planetary completion.
I suppose they could make a "Special" category, or even move it to "Events." But, no matter what they do, there will always be a category that cannot be completed for newer players. I'm not sure it really matters which one it is, because people will complain no matter what.
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DarthEnrique
05.21.2016 , 06:17 PM | #442
I'm gonna speak as someone who got the HK-55 companion sub reward, I couldn't care less if Bioware turned around and re-issued him at a later date, it would not hurt or bother me at all, I have no right what-so-ever to tell any player that comes to subscribing to this game after the fact that they are ****-out-of-luck and to "suck it up." If it will bring money to this game that will help the developers fix it and make it better and do better at their job, then I'm all for them making money that can go towards the game.

There are a lot of entitlist in this game and I will never be one cause I could really care less, as far as I'm concerned I got HK-55 first and he will always be special to me because he's MY companion, I'm not ****** at all that I see others who have him so why should it bother me if they re-issue him? If you're gonna be all "You're sol" and "Suck it up." and you aren't hurt by the fact that others who subscribed at the same time do too, why be a dick about it if they released him again? My point is other people have him besides you, you're not the only one. I'm not the only one with HK-55 so why should it bother me if they re-issued him?

Same with Nico, or any other sub-reward, why care if they re-issue him? It's not that big of deal... It's just a popular item that can get Bioware more money and we as a player base need to be more concerned about putting more money in Bioware's pocket then being "You're SOL" and "Suck it up."
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Ratajack
05.21.2016 , 06:41 PM | #443
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEnrique View Post
I'm gonna speak as someone who got the HK-55 companion sub reward, I could really careless if Bioware turned around and re-issued him at a later date, it would not hurt or bother me at all, I have no right what-so-ever to tell any player that comes to subscribing to this game after the fact that they are ****-out-of-luck and to "suck it up." If it will bring money to this game that will help the developers fix it and make it better and do better at their job, then I'm all for them making money that can go towards the game.

There are a lot of entitlist in this game and I will never be one cause I could really careless, as far as I'm concerned I got HK-55 first and he will always be special to me because he's MY companion, I'm not ****** at all that I see others who have him so why should it bother me if they re-issue him? If you're gonna be all "You're sol" and "Suck it up." and you aren't hurt by the fact that others who subscribed at the same time do, why be a dick about it if they released him again? My point is other people have him besides you, you're not the only one. I'm not the only one with HK-55 so why should it bother me if they re-issued him?

Same with Nico, or any other sub-reward, why care if they re-issue him? It's not that big of deal... It's just a popular item that can get Bioware more money and we as a player base need to be more concerned about putting more money in Bioware's pocket then being "You're SOL" and "Suck it up."
Once again, I question your motivation for your "generosity".

I know you say you don't care if they re-issue HK-55, but it wouldn't look good for you to say that you want HK-55 to remain exclusive when you so desperately want that Nico companion that you do NOT qualify to receive.

It may be a an item desired by those who did not meet the criteria to receive him, but given BW's history with regards to exclusive subscriber rewards, it will likely remain unavailable to those who did not meet that criteria, as it should.

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JediRelentless
05.21.2016 , 06:51 PM | #444
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEnrique View Post
I could really careless
That's not the correct phrase.
What you mean is "I couldn't care less".

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DarthEnrique
05.21.2016 , 06:56 PM | #445
Quote: Originally Posted by JediRelentless View Post
That's not the correct phrase.
What you mean is "I couldn't care less".
Thank you.
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DarthEnrique
05.21.2016 , 08:28 PM | #446
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Once again, I question your motivation for your "generosity".

I know you say you don't care if they re-issue HK-55, but it wouldn't look good for you to say that you want HK-55 to remain exclusive when you so desperately want that Nico companion that you do NOT qualify to receive.

It may be a an item desired by those who did not meet the criteria to receive him, but given BW's history with regards to exclusive subscriber rewards, it will likely remain unavailable to those who did not meet that criteria, as it should.
1. Ratajack, do you know the definition of harassment? I have told you once before to stop trolling me and you continue to do so, you are now harassing me. Leave me alone, stop replying to my post you are troller.

2. Question me all the **** you want, I don't give a ****, you don't *********** know me, you have never once met me in person, you know nothing about me personally.

NOW LEAVE ME ALONE! STOP INTENTIONALLY REPLYING TO MY POST AND GO HARASS SOMEONE ELSE.
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Ratajack
05.21.2016 , 08:39 PM | #447
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEnrique View Post
1. Ratajack, do you know the definition of harassment? I have told you once before to stop trolling me and you continue to do so, you are now harassing me. Leave me alone, stop replying to my post you are troller.

2. Question me all the **** you want, I don't give a ****, you don't *********** know me, you have never once met me in person, you know nothing about me personally.

NOW LEAVE ME ALONE! STOP INTENTIONALLY REPLYING TO MY POST AND GO HARASS SOMEONE ELSE.
Report me if you wish and let BW make the call, but I can respond to any post on these forums.

I simply question the motivations of any player who makes the claim that he does not care if a DIFFERENT exclusive subscriber reward were made available again since that would mean that the reward that player wants but does not qualify to receive would also likely be made available again.

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AlienEyeTX
05.21.2016 , 09:16 PM | #448
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthEnrique View Post
I'm gonna speak as someone who got the HK-55 companion sub reward, I couldn't care less if Bioware turned around and re-issued him at a later date, it would not hurt or bother me at all, I have no right what-so-ever to tell any player that comes to subscribing to this game after the fact that they are ****-out-of-luck and to "suck it up." If it will bring money to this game that will help the developers fix it and make it better and do better at their job, then I'm all for them making money that can go towards the game.

There are a lot of entitlist in this game and I will never be one cause I could really care less, as far as I'm concerned I got HK-55 first and he will always be special to me because he's MY companion, I'm not ****** at all that I see others who have him so why should it bother me if they re-issue him? If you're gonna be all "You're sol" and "Suck it up." and you aren't hurt by the fact that others who subscribed at the same time do too, why be a dick about it if they released him again? My point is other people have him besides you, you're not the only one. I'm not the only one with HK-55 so why should it bother me if they re-issued him?

Same with Nico, or any other sub-reward, why care if they re-issue him? It's not that big of deal... It's just a popular item that can get Bioware more money and we as a player base need to be more concerned about putting more money in Bioware's pocket then being "You're SOL" and "Suck it up."
It's not a question of caring whether other people have the special shiny thing. It's not about trying to keep people from having things they want.

It is a matter of principals. Some people stand up for them and others allow themselves to be walked-over. To go back on such things would call into question BW's integrity. Why would I bother subbing for the thing (which is their ultimate goal; to get subs) if I knew I'd be able to get it later? ***EDIT*** And why would I ever trust them again when they say something is exclusive?

You (and/or others) can argue all you want that it will make more money for the game if they make Nico available via CM. But, I'm not so sure you're right. It may seem that way as a few suckers line up to buy him. But what is the overall cost?

A sub is worth more than even a $20 CM purchase. A CM purchase is a one-time thing with no guarantee of future purchase. A sub (while still not guaranteed) is much more likely to stay subbed beyond the first month. It's a more reliable source of income.

Think of it like a gym membership. Even if there is no contract, many people keep that membership active (by paying for it) based on the intention to go back to the gym. And there are a fair number who just forget about it, either way. This is what BW wants in a sub. If they continue to play, great. If they play often, even better. But if they forget and keep paying... well, the money is the same.
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DarthEnrique
05.21.2016 , 09:45 PM | #449
Quote: Originally Posted by AlienEyeTX View Post
It's not a question of caring whether other people have the special shiny thing. It's not about trying to keep people from having things they want.

It is a matter of principals. Some people stand up for them and others allow themselves to be walked-over. To go back on such things would call into question BW's integrity. Why would I bother subbing for the thing (which is their ultimate goal; to get subs) if I knew I'd be able to get it later? ***EDIT*** And why would I ever trust them again when they say something is exclusive?

You (and/or others) can argue all you want that it will make more money for the game if they make Nico available via CM. But, I'm not so sure you're right. It may seem that way as a few suckers line up to buy him. But what is the overall cost?

A sub is worth more than even a $20 CM purchase. A CM purchase is a one-time thing with no guarantee of future purchase. A sub (while still not guaranteed) is much more likely to stay subbed beyond the first month. It's a more reliable source of income.

Think of it like a gym membership. Even if there is no contract, many people keep that membership active (by paying for it) based on the intention to go back to the gym. And there are a fair number who just forget about it, either way. This is what BW wants in a sub. If they continue to play, great. If they play often, even better. But if they forget and keep paying... well, the money is the same.
I still don't see it as a big deal even after this, while I understand what you are saying, it still not a big deal to me and wouldn't alter my opinion on BW at all, and as far as trust goes, never trust any company, no matter who they are, it's not just Bioware I'm talking about either, it doesn't matter what company, whether it be Bioware/EA, Nintendo whatever it doesn't matter, never trust them. All they are out for is money, that's it and if Nico is a way for them to make more money, I don't doubt they'll make it worth their while to do so.

I don't trust Bioware, they don't seem to do things right anyway, I mean look at the bug issues, some that have been going on for quite some time that they are probably aware of and do nothing about or they pick and choose which ones to fix, that gives me trust issues with them, that not everything is a priority when there are some that are. All bug issues should be a priority in this game cause it shows they want to use the money they are getting from everything they get from Cartel Coin purchuses, subscription to the Digital Upgrade Pack and the Shadow of Revan expansion to make this game a good quality game, to pick and choose like they do or make it look like they are flat out ignoring the issue does give me trust issues with them. But that's my opinion.

But as far as I'm concerned if Nico will get them money, I would say let them do so. And as for Ratajack's BS comment, I didn't subscribe when Nico was coming out, I was aware of him and didn't care, I wanted the KOTOR bike more then that him cause it had to do with, oh that's right REVAN. And even if they re-issued that it wouldn't bother me any, people need to quit holding onto the fact that these items are exclusive, so what?0

Bioware breaks exclusives all the time in this game, Revan's Armor Sets were exclusive to certain Cartel Packs yet then you were able to get them in the Gold Armor Pack and now in a Grand Chance Cube. Yes they are very rare drops but the point is they were suppose to be exclusive to the packs that they were released in yet they broke that and yet they made other ways to obtain them. You don't hear anyone complaining about that and saying they should've remained exclusive to those particular packs.
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DarthEnrique
05.21.2016 , 09:50 PM | #450
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