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Can we get Nico Okarr at all?

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Can we get Nico Okarr at all?

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MasonOfSparta
05.18.2016 , 02:47 PM | #361
Quote: Originally Posted by GelstonJ View Post
I guess I just don't understand the need people have to keep asking for stuff that was marked as exclusive when they didn't qualify for it. They are just skins. Skins given to us as thanks for our loyalty.

You weren't there. You didn't get it. Sorry. There'll be more stuff later, much of it will probably be damn near the same.
You don't understand why people would ask for rewards that other people have? That seems like an exaggeration. You're right though, I'm sure there will be cool stuff in the future. I'll attempt to cool my jets.

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ivanhedgehog
05.18.2016 , 03:53 PM | #362
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe View Post
I'm...not upset.

I tried to make that pretty clear. A little wistful at missing out on him (only thing I think I have missed out on) but upset? Nah.
you are not upset. the people that think anything will really be exclusive in a game like this are the ones that will be upset. I have nico, it wont bother me a bit if they decide to sell him at a later date. it isnt worth being upset about.

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DieAlteHexe
05.18.2016 , 04:23 PM | #363
Quote: Originally Posted by ivanhedgehog View Post
you are not upset. the people that think anything will really be exclusive in a game like this are the ones that will be upset. I have nico, it wont bother me a bit if they decide to sell him at a later date. it isnt worth being upset about.
I guess I misunderstood your post then.

I don't have a problem with this either way, really. I can see where folk who were rewarded for loyalty would prefer to have exclusivity. It wouldn't bother ME if stuff were made available way after its initial release (so the shiny new wore off having it) but it does "dull" the whole exclusivity thing.
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Ratajack
05.18.2016 , 04:23 PM | #364
Quote: Originally Posted by MasonOfSparta View Post
You don't understand why people would ask for rewards that other people have? That seems like an exaggeration. You're right though, I'm sure there will be cool stuff in the future. I'll attempt to cool my jets.
I don't understand why some players feel ENTITLED to have an EXCLUSIVE reward for which they did NOT qualify and demand that BW allow them to have that reward when they know full well they did not meet the criteria to receive that reward.

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Andryah
05.18.2016 , 04:29 PM | #365
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I don't understand why some players feel ENTITLED to have an EXCLUSIVE reward for which they did NOT qualify and demand that BW allow them to have that reward when they know full well they did not meet the criteria to receive that reward.
/Agree.

The best way to make incentives and promotions meaningless is to make it such that people can come in after the promotion and get the item(s) anyway.

But..... this is the state of entitlement in some of the player base of MMOs these days. It won't stop, and they feel righteously entitled to demand things they never qualified for.
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MasonOfSparta
05.18.2016 , 04:59 PM | #366
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I don't understand why some players feel ENTITLED to have an EXCLUSIVE reward for which they did NOT qualify and demand that BW allow them to have that reward when they know full well they did not meet the criteria to receive that reward.
Don't think I said anything about being entitled, or made any demands, just expressing my opinion that I want to exchange currency for goods and services bro. But I FEEL you, I won't ask BW to let me touch your Nico in his special places.

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CrazyCT
05.18.2016 , 05:18 PM | #367
Quote: Originally Posted by MasonOfSparta View Post
Don't think I said anything about being entitled, or made any demands, just expressing my opinion that I want to exchange currency for goods and services bro. But I FEEL you, I won't ask BW to let me touch your Nico in his special places.
It's not about people not wanting to share (well, maybe it is with some people), but it's about people being rewarded for supporting the game at a time when other people decided they had better things to do with their money. Too many people didn't want to "waste" money on a game when they knew there was no content coming for months, so they unsubbed. Which is fine, it's their money, I'm not going to tell them how to spend it.

But some people stuck around and supported the game. And Bioware gave recognition of that by giving an exclusive award, something that didn't give people an advantage, merely a reskinning of another item. And the people who weren't here now want it, even though he doesn't do anything any other companion does.

And to give him, or HK-55, or the Party Jawa out now would not only cheapen the gift, they would lose the faith of the people who stuck by them. If they start giving out subscriber rewards for people who didn't subscribe when they were needed, they'll find out that no-one will. Why stick around, subbing for the entire length of KotFE to get the Bonus Chapter if you can just whine on the forums and get access? Why not just do what a lot of people are doing right now, unsubbing till all the chapters are out, then sub for one month and get the full story?

I'm sure that it would be good for business if everyone only subscribed for 1 month per year, and got all the gifts anyway, all because some people couldn't cope with not having something that someone else has. "Why should he get it, and I can't?" Because he earned it by sticking with the game through thick and thin.

Let's stop calling it an exclusive gift, and start calling it a Badge of Loyalty.
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MasonOfSparta
05.18.2016 , 05:24 PM | #368
Maybe there's some compromise (for future gifts). Like right now you only get the bonus mission if you sub for the entire period (7 months or whatever). I came to the game three months in. It would be rad if I could just pay the extra three months sub (from the months I wasn't playing the game) to catch up. Not for this I guess, since people are really attached to the stuff already promised them, but as a future version of this rewards system. Or maybe a more traditional veterans reward system would suffice. I think I'd feel better knowing that there was an avenue for me to get stuff (especially companions and story content), even if it took a lot of time and resources. Not for this though, don't want to start a Nico/HK civil war.

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Ratajack
05.18.2016 , 05:25 PM | #369
Quote: Originally Posted by MasonOfSparta View Post
Don't think I said anything about being entitled, or made any demands, just expressing my opinion that I want to exchange currency for goods and services bro. But I FEEL you, I won't ask BW to let me touch your Nico in his special places.
I don't think i mentioned any specific person(s) but rather a general "some players". If you feel that I was referring to anyone in particular, possibly because that person knows they fall into that ENTITLED category, then rest assured that I was not speaking of anyone in particular.

It's the specific "goods and services" for which some players feel entitled to exchange currency that this is all about.

It's the fact that some players feel they are ENTITLED to simply "exchange currency" and have an EXCLUSIVE REWARD for which they did NOT qualify made available to them that is what is wrong with this picture.

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Ratajack
05.18.2016 , 05:31 PM | #370
Quote: Originally Posted by MasonOfSparta View Post
Maybe there's some compromise (for future gifts). Like right now you only get the bonus mission if you sub for the entire period (7 months or whatever). I came to the game three months in. It would be rad if I could just pay the extra three months sub (from the months I wasn't playing the game) to catch up. Not for this I guess, since people are really attached to the stuff already promised them, but as a future version of this rewards system. Or maybe a more traditional veterans reward system would suffice. I think I'd feel better knowing that there was an avenue for me to get stuff (especially companions and story content), even if it took a lot of time and resources. Not for this though, don't want to start a Nico/HK civil war.
I've said in the past that going forward I think a veteran reward system could be added alongside the time specific subscriber rewards.

Some of the exclusive rewards could be based on total length of subscribed time and available to anyone once they reach that total amount of subscribed time.

Some of the exclusive rewards would still be based on being subscribed at specific times and only available to those that were subscribed at those specific times, as well.