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For the Love of Palpy the Undying and His Dark Side Pantaloons...

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Nothing_Shines
05.16.2016 , 11:50 PM | #21
I was super into GSF for like three months including the huge leg-up early access. But not having the ships be legacy based so having to sit on one toon to wait for pops, lack of interesting maps, and most newbs getting mercilessly farmed until they up and quit made the whole thing boring after a while. Well, that and it just felt so disconnected from the rest of the game and I really wanted it to have PVE applications. Eh, I could go on about the GSF missed opportunities forever.
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05.17.2016 , 04:21 AM | #22
Sure, as long as they either put out new group content beforehand or reduce the sub fee for the duration.

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05.17.2016 , 04:27 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by Knorlac View Post
Sure, as long as they either put out new group content beforehand or reduce the sub fee for the duration.
Yeah, while content is bugged and broken to the point of not playable happily pay full sub and when they make stuff playable reduce sub fee. It makes a lot of sense.
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05.17.2016 , 04:50 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
Yeah, while content is bugged and broken to the point of not playable happily pay full sub and when they make stuff playable reduce sub fee. It makes a lot of sense.
As long as there are other MMOs out there which charge the same sub fee but deliver more adequate results on both fronts, I fully expect BW to do the same.

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05.17.2016 , 04:58 AM | #25
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Coders are not interchangeable. Those who work on bugs work just on bugs. Those who do level design, only that. I'm not trying to "knock you down", I wish people would stop being so paranoid around here . I'm trying to explain something that a lot of people get all wrong. They think there is a giant "pool" of "coders" and they can be set to do pretty much anything and this leads to frustration (on both sides actually).
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DieAlteHexe
05.17.2016 , 09:07 AM | #26
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A copy of The Mythical Man Month should be a subscriber benefit, maybe?
Good idea.

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05.17.2016 , 09:08 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by DieAlteHexe View Post
Good idea.

And if they actually read it...Cartel Coins!

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05.17.2016 , 09:10 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Nothing_Shines View Post
I was super into GSF for like three months including the huge leg-up early access. But not having the ships be legacy based so having to sit on one toon to wait for pops, lack of interesting maps, and most newbs getting mercilessly farmed until they up and quit made the whole thing boring after a while.
This is one of the bigger failures of GSF imo. The lack of it being Legacy based in an alt spawning game, was a very poor choice.
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05.17.2016 , 09:19 AM | #29
Just as a note, OP: HK-51 and Treek not getting influence from Flashpoints isn't a bug, it's a conscious design decision. No companions get influence from flashpoints introduced after 1.0, and the 1.0 flashpoints were introduced before HK-51 and Treek so they're not a "part" of those stories. You'll notice that only the first companion a character receives (eg. Vette) gets Black Talon/Esseles rep.

UNLESS you're talking about them not getting rep from completing Star Fortress bonus objectives, which then would be a bug (because you're supposed to get 500 influence with both your active companion and Theron).

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Usually (and likely in a studio of this size), there are separate teams working on content, bugs, etc.
If you're talking about art assets and modelling objects, then you are correct.

But the people who actually make code so the game actually does things are the same people who fix the bugs, unless the studio is making money hand over fist and can afford literally another entire team, which Bioware is not.
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DieAlteHexe
05.17.2016 , 09:21 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Diviciacus View Post
...If you're talking about art assets and modelling objects, then you are correct.

But the people who actually make code so the game actually does things are the same people who fix the bugs, unless the studio is making money hand over fist and can afford literally another entire team, which Bioware is not.
I think you're wrong but y'know what? I'm not going to bicker about it. Pretty sure BW cand and does have a raid-team.
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