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Heroic 4 quests should be redesigned


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hardicon
12.29.2011 , 09:45 AM | #51
actually i do them all at least once, yeah im a completionist.

the only i have skipped both in beta and live is the resistance sympathizers on balmorra. both times it was because i did the balmorran arms factory late at night and didnt have time to do the heroic while i was there and then i didnt want to run all the way back to that point to do the quest. maybe if they put a shuttle stop to some of these it would be easier, i dont want to run through 45 minutes of mobs just to get to the quest area so i skipped that one. the rest i have done.

btw for those that dont know, these heroic quests are where you get alot of your orange gear from without flashpoints. ive gotten a orange moddable item from just about every one of them.

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ratfanatic
12.29.2011 , 09:47 AM | #52
You play on a poor server. My experience has been the exact opposite of yours.
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swampthing
12.29.2011 , 09:55 AM | #53
as much as i want to do all the quests and +4 flashpoints, i'm finding myself just passing.

Why? Grouping is such a freaking pain. I'm constantly at the mercy of their AFK's, and slowness or wanting to speed through or whatever. It's annoying to be frank. The most fun i've had in the game so far was going through that first flashpoint as a duo with my wife. I was hoping more flashpoints were going to be duoable, but evidently that's not the case.

I think alot of people are frankly over grouping in these games and are more happy soloing or duoing and i think the game design really should start accomadating that. Make these flashpoints scale to either a duo or a group of 4, how hard is that really? Doing content with 4 people isn't harder than with 2, in fact it's the opposite. the only difficulty that comes from doing groups with more people is human difficulty, ie. bathroom breaks, not paying attention, one member of your group is eight etc. That kind of difficulty isn't fun it's annoying and is why i don't group anymore except with my wife.

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Alcarinn
12.29.2011 , 10:07 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by swampthing View Post
as much as i want to do all the quests and +4 flashpoints, i'm finding myself just passing.

Why? Grouping is such a freaking pain. I'm constantly at the mercy of their AFK's, and slowness or wanting to speed through or whatever. It's annoying to be frank. The most fun i've had in the game so far was going through that first flashpoint as a duo with my wife. I was hoping more flashpoints were going to be duoable, but evidently that's not the case.

I think alot of people are frankly over grouping in these games and are more happy soloing or duoing and i think the game design really should start accomadating that. Make these flashpoints scale to either a duo or a group of 4, how hard is that really? Doing content with 4 people isn't harder than with 2, in fact it's the opposite. the only difficulty that comes from doing groups with more people is human difficulty, ie. bathroom breaks, not paying attention, one member of your group is eight etc. That kind of difficulty isn't fun it's annoying and is why i don't group anymore except with my wife.
Shoooo to single player coop COD... and leave MMOs for groupers

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Xzulld
12.29.2011 , 10:09 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Drusillus View Post
I personally have been having a very hard time finding players to participate in the +4 group quests.

When I ask in general chat, usually the response i get is something like "dude, they're just dailies, skip them and move to the next planet"

I'm level 43 and have completed 2 +4 quests to date.
37 and haven't done a single one, I don't really try that hard to get a group, and if it doesn't pan out in about 10 minutes I move on.

Its early in the games retail launch so I am hoping on my alt it may be better.

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Swift
12.29.2011 , 10:10 AM | #56
Yeah on my server (The Harbinger) there is hardly a time where general chat is not being spammed by people on Coru, Taris or Nar Shaddar asking for interest in the 2/4 heroics. Not sure about Tatooine, just got my first character there

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Swift
12.29.2011 , 10:14 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Alcarinn View Post
Shoooo to single player coop COD... and leave MMOs for groupers
Ironic considering this game is so friendly to the casual, solo players that I am sure they out number the 'core' MMO players by a huge margin.

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Xothos
12.29.2011 , 10:16 AM | #58
Easy solution to nofinding a full group for a Heroic 4 quest. Companion character. Me and my roommate have been doing all these just us 2 and 2 companions.. no issues, no downtime finding a group. And even if you aren't leveling with someone, its not hard to find a single person. Been doing it on my alts just fine.

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pocketthesaurus
12.29.2011 , 10:22 AM | #59
I've never had a problem finding a group for a H4 quest or a FP.

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Malvorno
12.29.2011 , 10:23 AM | #60
Have done every single +4 Heroic and only missed 1 flashpoint up to level 41 so far

I have leveled as a healer though

1 4+ Heroic we managed with 2 healers and 2 Companions(some level 30+ one on Nar Shaddaa). Most Heroic 2+ I can solo

Really some of them are incredibly easy and they are a nice change from the facerolling through regular quests

They came from....behind