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Can we get Nico Okarr at all?
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05.16.2016 , 06:45 AM | #301
Quote: Originally Posted by Eommer View Post
Subs already got that Companion early, thats good enough.
Except to all the subs that got it that would disagree. They CAN'T offer this stuff again, because if they did who the hell is going to believe their future offerings? They'll have similar stuff in the future. Just be subbed when it comes out.
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05.16.2016 , 06:52 AM | #302
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Except to all the subs that got it that would disagree. They CAN'T offer this stuff again, because if they did who the hell is going to believe their future offerings? They'll have similar stuff in the future. Just be subbed when it comes out.
Future credibility would be no issue if they changed the system entirely.
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05.16.2016 , 06:55 AM | #303
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Future credibility would be no issue if they changed the system entirely.
Sure, but they probably aren't going to do that for some time. I imagine after season two of kotfe at the earliest.
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05.16.2016 , 06:55 AM | #304
Quote: Originally Posted by GelstonJ View Post
Except to all the subs that got it that would disagree. They CAN'T offer this stuff again, because if they did who the hell is going to believe their future offerings? They'll have similar stuff in the future. Just be subbed when it comes out.
well, i dont agree. you got that by FREE and early that everybody. I'm asking to give to the players a second chance (NOT BY FREE) but paying like said 2500 cc. Do you really think that's unfair?

you = early access / free (14,xx as sub)
me = 1 year after / 2500 cc (14,00 as sub plus 20,xx for 2400cc)

that advantage its not enough for you?

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IanArgent
05.16.2016 , 06:56 AM | #305
We can have a discussion about how the rewards should be structured like in the future, but previous rewards had their own qualifications. Starting with the word "exclusive."

It's not about the advantages. There are ways around the advantages, without breaking exclusivity.
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05.16.2016 , 06:58 AM | #306
Quote: Originally Posted by Eommer View Post
well, i dont agree. you got that by FREE and early that everybody. I'm asking to give to the players a second chance (NOT BY FREE) but paying like said 2500 cc. Do you really think that's unfair?

you = early access / free (14,xx as sub)
me = 1 year after / 2500 cc (14,00 as sub plus 20,xx for 2400cc)

that advantage its not enough for you?
It wasn't free. If it was free everyone would have it. I paid several months of sub with no break to get Nico and all the rewards associated with him.

And that wasn't the deal. The deal was, exclusive Nico for people who sub from Meh to Meh. Not exclusive until we put it on the cartel market a year later.

You are asking the company to destroy their own credibility.
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Mykra
05.16.2016 , 01:39 PM | #307
I just want his duster. No, not the recolored subversive jacket they gave out as a reward, but his actual jacket from the cinematics and concept art.

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05.16.2016 , 01:41 PM | #308
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
Yes, I'm all for sub incentives, too, and against one-point-in-time sub rewards, because that excludes newcomers and returnees. I'm in favor of a program that rewards sub time and grants certain rewards at certain tiers. I have all sub rewards since the game launched, and I'd have absolutely no problem at all if they implemented a time-based system that includes previous sub rewards at certain tiers (perhaps in combination with some other requirements like event currencies etc. to not make it too easy ). The Party Jawa and Nico should be obtainable by everyone after they subbed for a required period of time. The legacy crystals, too.

Date- / event- / purchase- / preorder- based rewards are nice as commemorative items, but they should not be tied to any additional functionality that other player are forever excluded from, like the Party Jawa achievement that can't even be done when grouped with a Party Jawa owner. (The Hutt trainer doesn't count because the same convenience is available through Satele and Malgus statues and more generally the same functionality provided by all class trainers in the game.)
I think making FUTURE rewards based on length of subscription GOING FORWARD might be a good idea.

I do NOT think that ANY of the exclusive rewards from the past should be be made available again. I think the exclusive rewards from the past should remain exclusive.

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05.16.2016 , 01:46 PM | #309
Quote: Originally Posted by Eommer View Post
well, i dont agree. you got that by FREE and early that everybody. I'm asking to give to the players a second chance (NOT BY FREE) but paying like said 2500 cc. Do you really think that's unfair?

you = early access / free (14,xx as sub)
me = 1 year after / 2500 cc (14,00 as sub plus 20,xx for 2400cc)

that advantage its not enough for you?
Some people, in their rabid desire to have Nico as a companion, ignore the fact that Nico was promised as an EXCLUSIVE REWARD for being subscribed on either of two SPECIFIC dates.

It was not advertised as subscribe on either of these two dates and get Nico a year earlier than we put it on the CM.

If a player was not subscribed on either of those two dates, they do NOT qualify to get Nico.

Those players who were not subscribed on either of the two specific dates to qualify to get Nico will simply have to learn to accept Nico not being available as a companion to them.

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casirabit
05.16.2016 , 01:57 PM | #310
Quote: Originally Posted by Eommer View Post
well, i dont agree. you got that by FREE and early that everybody. I'm asking to give to the players a second chance (NOT BY FREE) but paying like said 2500 cc. Do you really think that's unfair?

you = early access / free (14,xx as sub)
me = 1 year after / 2500 cc (14,00 as sub plus 20,xx for 2400cc)

that advantage its not enough for you?
Free? Paying a sub is free? People had to be sub for a certain amount of time to get Nico and I am not going to split hairs that Nico was free. It truly wasn't. You had to be a sub for xx amount of time, just like HK and the HK chapter. You may want to say it is free but it truly isn't.

If it was free everyone would have received him. My best friend didn't get Nico because she missed a month but yet she accepted responsibility for her actions.

In a game there will be always things that some people might not have, due to when they sub but that is the nature of the game. There are things I don't have because of some things but I am not asking them to put it on the cartel shop so I can get something someone else had because of either being a sub longer or doing something I didn't do. I don't think that is fair.
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