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MaximumOwnage
04.28.2016 , 06:14 PM | #1631
Quote: Originally Posted by MeNaCe-NZ View Post
Reticules? Was this also written on this notepad with your "stats"?
Wow, you have a lot to say tonight.

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MaximumOwnage
04.28.2016 , 06:41 PM | #1632
Quote: Originally Posted by Xcurtx View Post
i share the opinion of TUX, game is in dire state and going downhill fast.
That seems almost so obvious its strange that we need to even mention it or even use the word "opinion". But unfortunately there are very thin skinned people who need to be held by the hand and have a hard time with negative reality. I've been very patient with them. Its not always easy.

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MeNaCe-NZ
04.28.2016 , 10:05 PM | #1633
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximumOwnage View Post
Its not always easy.
I'm sure you have similar things to say about using a knife and fork.

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Max_Killjoy
04.28.2016 , 10:30 PM | #1634
I wonder if those guys going back and forth will ever get to an entire page of posts that just show up as ignored user post links...

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TUXs
04.28.2016 , 11:21 PM | #1635
Quote: Originally Posted by MeNaCe-NZ View Post
Thanks for using that word, TUXs seems to think opinions and facts are the same thing.
I've been very clear that this is based on MY observations. Observations which can be verified by using the links back pages ago. Since neither of us has any actual numbers, neither you nor I can present "facts" as you're demanding...but it is MY observation that there are undeniably fewer players now on Harb than there were 10 months ago.

You're free to disagree all you'd like...but you're wrong.
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commanderwar
04.28.2016 , 11:51 PM | #1636
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I've been very clear that this is based on MY observations. Observations which can be verified by using the links back pages ago. Since neither of us has any actual numbers, neither you nor I can present "facts" as you're demanding...but it is MY observation that there are undeniably fewer players now on Harb than there were 10 months ago.

You're free to disagree all you'd like...but you're wrong.
But the link just showed me the light medium and heavy. Back in October they increase servers capacity so you cannot compare to 10 months ago.

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MaximumOwnage
04.29.2016 , 04:06 AM | #1637
Quote: Originally Posted by commanderwar View Post
But the link just showed me the light medium and heavy. Back in October they increase servers capacity so you cannot compare to 10 months ago.
You don't need to. The who tab doesn't lie. And the who tab says very clearly from 12 months ago, 10 months ago, 8 months ago, that the game is 100% no questions asked, un mistakenly, without any doubt about it depopulating. I could not care less about the change is server capacity loads and what it indicates on the selection screen. It means nothing. But the who tab does. And it shows me exactly how many people are in game. And I have a notepad right next to me that shows 100% that population is down. And down in a big way compared to 12, 10, 8 , 6, 4 months ago. Heck just in the past 7-10 days I have seen a drop in Harbinger much less going back a year ago.

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MaximumOwnage
04.29.2016 , 04:56 AM | #1638
Quote: Originally Posted by MaximumOwnage View Post
You don't need to. The who tab doesn't lie. And the who tab says very clearly from 12 months ago, 10 months ago, 8 months ago, that the game is 100% no questions asked, un mistakenly, without any doubt about it depopulating. I could not care less about the change is server capacity loads and what it indicates on the selection screen. It means nothing. But the who tab does. And it shows me exactly how many people are in game. And I have a notepad right next to me that shows 100% that population is down. And down in a big way compared to 12, 10, 8 , 6, 4 months ago. Heck just in the past 7-10 days I have seen a drop in Harbinger much less going back a year ago.
BTW if anyone would have used this method, they would have left POT5 over 2 years ago like I did. Its amazing what a little common sense and the who tab can do for you. It was predictable what happened to POT5 if you knew where to look.

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MeNaCe-NZ
04.29.2016 , 05:37 AM | #1639
Quote: Originally Posted by Max_Killjoy View Post
I wonder if those guys going back and forth will ever get to an entire page of posts that just show up as ignored user post links...
Funny coming from the most prolific current poster on the forums. Most of us are mature enough to handle our arguments without needing to revert to ignore because things didn't go our way.

You have to wonder if you have to ignore that many people that maybe those people aren't the problem ... you are ... just saying.

Funnier yet is when people like you selectively respond/quote to posts from people you've supposedly ignored which is so telling you just can't help but to remove the ignore to know what was said in the first place ... but wait ... then pretend to take the moral high ground again and state publicly how you've ignored them ... what a joke.

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MeNaCe-NZ
04.29.2016 , 05:50 AM | #1640
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I've been very clear that this is based on MY observations. Observations which can be verified by using the links back pages ago. Since neither of us has any actual numbers, neither you nor I can present "facts" as you're demanding...but it is MY observation that there are undeniably fewer players now on Harb than there were 10 months ago.

You're free to disagree all you'd like...but you're wrong.
Oh come on TUXs ... this is weak by your usual standards ...

This is what you posted.

"Even so...that doesn't change the fact that a year ago, Harb had 4 Pub Fleets (2 full, 2 filling) active "

I see the word fact there ... do you? Pretty sure that's your post is it not? Where are your facts? Don't tell me to refer to links pages ago ... show me those links now ... stop being so damn lazy or just don't bother replying and embarrassing yourself further.

Now as to the the torstatus point I made earlier ... I've figured it out now and you need to check an entire region for the overtime trends for some odd reason.

That is basically click 'North America' up top then click 'population trends' as your data view down below.
You should get a second graph under the main graph allowing you to select any range in the past year ( I seem to recall this being further but it is what it is ) ... under current trend we see a drop off especially in may - july when KoTFE was announced last year, we know we're again in a lull now so point is we need to wait until july and see if we see things pick up again.

Before anyone thinks to say "but we had way more heavy back then" you can't compare like for like, only trends. Reason being they increased server capacity thus there is no like for like year on year but you can still compare trends over time ( just not by a % base. just that the trend is following the previous year or not i.e. rising/dropping in line with the previous year ).

This is somewhat demonstrated by how much larger the standard capacity is this year vs last year ... oddly ( and this surprises me ) if you take it from feb to now you can concluse population is on the rise from the increased amount of standard there is compared to mid feb where the heavy all but died off. This is of course NA on a whole and the stats could ideally be flawed depending on how it's measured when looking at NA as a whole.