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Floplag
03.25.2016 , 08:45 AM | #651
I wonder at his point who the "game is dead" faction is trying to convince, us, or themselves? If the game is so dead why are you even here? Shouldn't you be in a more a live games forums?
Its simple, if you dont want to play theres the door, for those of us that do, enough already.
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MadCuzBad
03.25.2016 , 08:52 AM | #652
Quote: Originally Posted by Floplag View Post
I wonder at his point who the "game is dead" faction is trying to convince, us, or themselves? If the game is so dead why are you even here? Shouldn't you be in a more a live games forums?
Its simple, if you dont want to play theres the door, for those of us that do, enough already.
You need to read better. The game is dead in the sense of there is nowhere else to run for refuge. We have reached the end of the rope. The server Harbringer is NOT dead yet. It has started its decent and has gone drasticly downhill in the past 4-6 weeks, but it is not dead. What this thread is about is the fact that the game has died, and we are down to 1 last server worth playing on and now where do we go when it dies. That's what this is all about.

You need to read a little before you go off on a full meltdown and then on top of it screaming at me to leave this game. I made it very clear. I like this game, but when the que times get to the point that have already reached ON 4 OTHER SERVERS I PLAYED ON BEFORE HARBRINGER then I am gone and gone forever unless they institute server to server ques or form a mega server.

Plain and simple. Read a little before you go off on a full meltdown mode.

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IanArgent
03.25.2016 , 08:56 AM | #653
OK, fine - I accept the PvP game is dying. Happy now?
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Max_Killjoy
03.25.2016 , 09:13 AM | #654
Quote: Originally Posted by MadCuzBad View Post
You need to read better. The game is dead in the sense of there is nowhere else to run for refuge. We have reached the end of the rope. The server Harbringer is NOT dead yet. It has started its decent and has gone drasticly downhill in the past 4-6 weeks, but it is not dead. What this thread is about is the fact that the game has died, and we are down to 1 last server worth playing on and now where do we go when it dies. That's what this is all about.

You need to read a little before you go off on a full meltdown and then on top of it screaming at me to leave this game. I made it very clear. I like this game, but when the que times get to the point that have already reached ON 4 OTHER SERVERS I PLAYED ON BEFORE HARBRINGER then I am gone and gone forever unless they institute server to server ques or form a mega server.

Plain and simple. Read a little before you go off on a full meltdown mode.
What's this "WE"?

YOU have reached the end of YOUR rope. YOU have no where else to go for refuge.

The server I play on is not dead, there are people on all the time and it hits standard server load every night I'm on.

4-6 weeks is not the end of the world for a game that has lasted over 5 years and has additional content in production at present (whether it's content any one player, myself includes, gives a damn about -- they're recording voice acting for Season 2 of KotFE).

If the game was dead, you would not be able to log into the game to see how "bad" it is on your server, and the forum you've been posting on (about how the game is "dead") for years now would likely not be up and running for you to post on.

Perhaps you should look up "dead" in that dictionary you love to spam copy-paste definitions from.

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Andryah
03.25.2016 , 09:13 AM | #655
Quote: Originally Posted by MadCuzBad View Post
You need to read better. The game is dead in the sense of there is nowhere else to run for refuge. We have reached the end of the rope. The server Harbringer is NOT dead yet. It has started its decent and has gone drasticly downhill in the past 4-6 weeks, but it is not dead. What this thread is about is the fact that the game has died, and we are down to 1 last server worth playing on and now where do we go when it dies. That's what this is all about.

You need to read a little before you go off on a full meltdown and then on top of it screaming at me to leave this game. I made it very clear. I like this game, but when the que times get to the point that have already reached ON 4 OTHER SERVERS I PLAYED ON BEFORE HARBRINGER then I am gone and gone forever unless they institute server to server ques or form a mega server.

Plain and simple. Read a little before you go off on a full meltdown mode.
Then stop being provocative with the click-bait title and change the title of the thread AND all your rhetoric in this thread to reflect your revised claim here.
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MadCuzBad
03.25.2016 , 09:16 AM | #656
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Then stop being provocative with the click-bait title and change the title of the thread AND all your rhetoric in this thread to reflect your revised claim here.
Title is exactly what I said and meant. Why should it change?

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Max_Killjoy
03.25.2016 , 09:18 AM | #657
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Then stop being provocative with the click-bait title and change the title of the thread AND all your rhetoric in this thread to reflect your revised claim here.
He doesn't change his claim here, however -- he continues to claim that because his queue times are too long for his tastes, the entire game is "dead".

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Joesixxpack
03.25.2016 , 09:34 AM | #658
Quote: Originally Posted by IanArgent View Post
I'm not the one who is judging the health of the game by PvP queue pops. For what I do, the game is as healthy as ever. There's people in my guild chat, when I decide to PvP I can usually get a match or two in a reasonable time, and the times I've looked to do an Op or event operations boss, I've found one.

I'm not much of a player of shooters; every so often I'll make a fool of myself in TF2, but that's about it
You completely dodged my post with irrelevant stuff.

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Nope, and here's why. The fantasy is trying to claim that this is a fantasy.



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You found a thread made by one player this week. Wow overwhelming.

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IanArgent
03.25.2016 , 10:03 AM | #659
Quote: Originally Posted by Joesixxpack View Post
You completely dodged my post with irrelevant stuff.


You found a thread made by one player this week. Wow overwhelming.
I don't follow - you said "no u" (which is a blinding argument) and then implied that there were no toxic PvP'ers, which plenty of other people have posted counterexamples of, over several years of gaming experience; in multiple games.

My position is that, overall, the game is surviving; but that SWTOR's PvP subgame is withering away, likely due to the perception that PvP is full of "Do you even PvP, bro" dudebros. (Whether that's a reality or not doesn't matter, since that's the perception.) I'm also seeing evidence that the SWTOR ops subgame is withering, because of a similar perception of elitism; leading to less players, leading to less observed ROI on Ops. (At least PvP is getting some additional content shortly; we're not seeing new ops in this expansion cycle).

I'll be sad if Ops go away, I'm just now dipping my toes in that space, and having fun - the couple of times I've done Ops-sized content, it has been refreshingly free of "do you even X" dudebros, and even when I've been at fault for errors, I've gotten constructive criticism.
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Max_Killjoy
03.25.2016 , 10:06 AM | #660
Quote: Originally Posted by Joesixxpack View Post
You found a thread made by one player this week. Wow overwhelming.
And never mind all the people who said "this guy's self-proclaimed behavior matches the sorts of things I've seen in PvP both in SWTOR and elsewhere?" Or all the people who've pointed out the same issues in these threads, or elsewhere, just during the recent brouhaha?