Are ops/raids outdated?

EC isn't as hard as Revan HM was even post nerf in 3.0. In 4.0 NiM EC, the biggest difficulty about it is DPS checks, in comparison tanking mechanics in EC are simplistic to later operations, and healers can do stupidly more healing compared to on tier. You can delete entire mechanics in the raid with some of the abilities classes have now (*cough saber reflect*)

People didn't leave cause difficulty, they left cause no use in reclearing already cleared on tier raids.

Somehow I highly doubt that actually. I know a lot of people from my guild (myself included) that have recently reactivated or started a WoW account because we are getting no new Operations in this game, and are so bored of running the Ops we've been doing for years in some cases.

Unless BW is planning another Level increase and leaves these Ops at 65, and give us something new they seriously wasted time rescaling these Ops. Without new raids they will at this point quickly lose those of us who are trying to give them a chance, even tho we haven't seen anything new now in over 17 months.

Yes because WOW got a strong playerbase and update, but it's still bleeding because its era, the era of MMO has past.

Even if Bioware made these new raids(which means they left everything aside), how many players are they going to get back? Not many.

I was talking about at the time. Of the original four raids EC was the hardest. I stopped playing before Revan and I only pop in now and again to check out the game. Unfortunately my friends arent coming back and the guild I merged into seems to have vanished.

Im not going to even bother finding yet another guild as I am way behind the curve and to put it simply the direction of the game isnt to my liking. I play to play with others and it doesnt seem like they are going to be adding new group content anytime soon or very often.

As for your last sentence that was kind of my point. Everything was pretty much easy to do and easy to gear up quickly. No use in continuing to raid the same thing over and over and over because at some point its no longer fun.

True, they won't get many back simply because those players have lost faith in BW for the many blunders that have been made with this game (not just from the lack of raids, but bug fixes, exploits and many more). What BW needs to do if they want to keep those that have stayed is to keep making raids or more of the raiding community will leave.

Something else to consider tho. Most Raiders also do other parts of this game PvP, GSF. So if raiders leave now, those other communities lose people as well. That's not a good thing at all for those communities either.

You look at this all wrong. MMOs are not an era of the past. Millions of people still play them. A game just gets stale and boring after a while. Especially when your playstyle is completely neglected for a long time.

Bioware is not going to get a ton of players back just by making a new raid. A lot of people never go back to games they quit because the reason they left never changed and they are invested in a new game by that point. The other reason is because usually they left with a large group of friends and most of those wont come back. It has nothing to do with MMOs being an era of the past.

I don't think making raids could solve the problem. Like we just discussed, most of the 1m sube lose in the first year didn't really play raids much. People simply got bored of the WOW alike style.

Just because someone left before they hit max level at launch or in the 1st month or 2, doesn't mean it has anything to do with leaving because it's a WoW clone. your making an assumption with no facts. They could have left for many reasons. How many of them started this game just because it was a Star Wars game, and didn't like it? how many hadn't played an MMO before at all, and just found it unenjoyable?

The answer here is none of us actually know on these questions, so basing the facts a lot left due to it being a WoW clone aren't necessarily true.

Sadly it is. Old people leave games all days, but new players are no longer attracted by MMO that much now.

And why wasn't it liked by the majority that were attracted by it in the first place? This is the serious problem.

It spent a lot of effort, got a super IP and great story in a MMO. Sure it made some mistakes but overall better than 95% of the MMO. The only answer is quite simple: The Era of MMO has past and people got WOW.