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Easier fix of the Premade vs Pug exploit ?

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Easier fix of the Premade vs Pug exploit ?

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BowtieJones
03.10.2016 , 04:45 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobbafatter View Post
Once solo ranked has WZs I'll be there. But you won't be ...
I absolutely agree with you there.Well, I don't know the guy you were replying to, so it's very possible, and even probable that he would continue to queue solo ranked if it included wz.

I posted about this last week, and I'm starting to feel like the lone doofus shouting from the mountain tops and into the wind since I seem to never get a response aside from sarcasm. Lots of views. No discussion though.

Regs should be left how it is. Team ranked should be left how it is.

Solo ranked should include warzones. Boom. Problem solved. Yes, you may end up with lots of arenas, but that's a population problem. Advertise in gen chat and get people to queue up.

Never want to face a double premade? Solo ranked. Want to play with people equal to your skill level? Solo Ranked.
Want to group with your friends, but not play exclusively arena? Regs. etc etc etc.
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03.10.2016 , 05:22 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by jedcjedcjedc View Post
Even solo queuing it's not often I see an enemy team without at least a 2 person group, so it's not that it's always like double 4-mans vs 8 pugs (yes, I'm horribly exaggerating the point like every person in here arguing against them). That being said, there are also a few common sense things that have been said numerous times in here about premades. Like a premade does not guarantee skill. A premade does not guarantee voice chat. A premade does not guarantee an 8-man or even a 4-man group. A premade does not guarantee that their are no premades on the other side. You would think, playing on one of the heavier populated servers, that I would see more of these things everyone is complaining about especially this que-syncing 8-man regs smasher group that is the bane of every anti-premade'er in here, but if I were to be honest, it's not all that often I see more than a 3-man group. It makes me wonder how these servers with such lower population can continuously find these 8-man groups. r.
are you still on JC? I have toons spread out over JC, Harb and TEH. hell, I just pulled one out of JM cuz it's dead and the new server system makes the PVP distinction moot.

anyway, my point is that JC really is super watered down right now. there are some great players still kicking around, but trust me, the number of high caliber premades is significantly higher on Harb and noticeably higher on TEH.

Harb is so bad that I don't bother queuing pub unless I can grp with someone from guild -- and nobody's ever on! lol

anyway, I'm not against the right to premade 4m. the superQs annoy me but w/e. there ought to be better matchmaking. I kinda wish they'd just do away with regs. then you either grp rank or solo rank. but you'd have to open that up to the WZs too. it's not like most of the great players don't do regs. I mean, I rarely see cap or something, but instead of creating new and different ways to split queues, maybe we should just merge them and remove the leaderboards once you get past the top 25 or 50 per server?
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-BlackDragon-
03.10.2016 , 05:33 PM | #53
Not another one of these threads..... and I guess premades are an exploit now...
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Physrho
03.10.2016 , 07:06 PM | #54
First I'd like to say that I rarely ever play in a premade WZ group. I've found that yes, premade groups have a higher chance of success. But I've also found that playing against better skilled/prepared groups has made be a more deadly pvper in general. And guess what? Once I started to improve my game on a personal level, people started asking me to group up. And azzes get owned.

My question is what is wrong with that? Is it so wrong to try and increase your chances of winning? Isn't that the point of PvP, doing what it takes to best you competition?

Stop whining and expecting a win to be handed to you on a silver platter. Pay your dues, take yer lumps, learn from your mistakes and soon enough you'll find yourself at the tip of the spear.

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Bobbafatter
03.10.2016 , 07:44 PM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by J_McSkill View Post
Premade vs premade are the best matches... I agree that if there's two premades in queue, they should face each other. What I don't agree with is making one premade wait an hour until anther premade decides to queue.

Bobbafatter, let's be honest, you're only butt hurt cause you're really bad and need to be facing 8 bad pugs to even have a chance. If you were any good you'd be carrying your team rather than QQ'ing on the forums.
If you suck so bad you need a premade to tackle the solo content, why do you even play ?

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J_McSkill
03.10.2016 , 08:03 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobbafatter View Post
If you suck so bad you need a premade to tackle the solo content, why do you even play ?
Your IQ is obviously very low so I'm not going to waste much time trying to explain how your response makes absolutely no sense. You're either very young or have some type of learning disability so I'm not going to rip you apart or embarrass you regardless of how rude your comment was.
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Bobbafatter
03.10.2016 , 08:33 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by J_McSkill View Post
Your IQ is obviously very low so I'm not going to waste much time trying to explain how your response makes absolutely no sense. You're either very young or have some type of learning disability so I'm not going to rip you apart or embarrass you regardless of how rude your comment was.
QQ more ... and maybe l2p so you won't need a premade.

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knowmyname
03.10.2016 , 09:23 PM | #58
Went up against some premades and double premades tonight. Good challenge. Won some and lost some but still a good time.

Nothing wrong with premades.

Though it's the war zone tourists that spin me up. Had one tonight. Didn't do a thing. Looked at his gear, starter insta-60 gear, as a level 65. This is your issue. Not premades.
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foxmob
03.10.2016 , 10:40 PM | #59
I think the token 60 gear is 188? you really don't wanna take the next step up (story mode greens) b/c 190 is the sweet spot for pve gear in WZs iirc. it's not a big deal to be in those blues. I think I had a handful of them with my token 60. didn't matter much. still effective.
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lavatsunami
03.11.2016 , 11:36 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by jedcjedcjedc View Post
And the insults commence. you seem awfully against this "making friends" thing. whatever that is.
It's not an insult to state a fact. Dumb is just another word for illogical. Also, you completely dodged my counter argument. Presumably, because there is no counter to it.

Also, I've made tons of friends in this game. But the point of an MMO isn't to make friends unless that's what you want to specifically do.