Dread Fortress SM Reaches, Hands, Brontes are broke.

I like the response from community to mr.Musco's announcement thread had about 3 pages and now suddenly 17 lol

There are still raiders in the game and I hope this reaction wakes BW to the issues. This has been said many times already but our guild is struggling too atm. One team is working on M&B and hoping to get back to Cora which they haven't been able to do yet in 4.0. Denying them a chance to progress for two months is just sad, and it might just be our raiding guild dies too in the process. Wake up dudes and dudettes @bw, wake up!

I guess there is at least one White Knight left on the forums ... even if the fix takes 2 months (very dubious claim), is it still acceptable that Musco hasn't chimed in again on this thread?

BTW, anyone that thinks we will ever see a new operation is delusional. BW has decided that raiders are not worth the effort. If they are right, they will have no motivation to add a new op. If they are wrong, the damage will have been done and will be irreversible. I think the best we will ever get is a one boss instance.

You actually think it's legitimately going to take them 2 months to fix this? Hah! Hahahahahs

We'd be lucky if they have even taken a look for the cause. We'll also be lucky if the fix they deploy a) actually fixes the issue and b) didn't horribly break something else that's completely unrelated. You know, kind of like how apparently ops bosses were broken in a patch to fix crafting.

Well if you read my post again you will see how I expected people calling me a white knight, but you had to and that's why I mentioned it.

Secondly Eric has responded to this thread.

So my suggestion to you is learn to read before you react.

BW make plenty of mistakes and I criticize things regularly but I can also see positives. If that makes me a white knight because I can sometimes take out positives, I suggest you learn logical reasoning from someone as well. It does make life easier for everyone involved.

As I said I don't like what is happening but I'd rather they say it's gonna take a few months to fix this than lie about it or not respond. Again they did respond in this thread.

Try not to add things to what I wrote.

I think it's much more realistic of them to say it's going to take a few months to fix it. Whatever else you read into that is your responsibility.

I am also aware that they break stuff every time a patch with new content comes out. So please learn that between 0% and 100% there are many more numbers. It's not just love or hate. I hate some of the stuff they do or don't do and I am happy with other things. If me saying something positive makes me a 100% fan of BW in your eyes, you are not as smart as you may think.

It took a week for them to acknowledge this bug yet it was posted 24 hours after the update was released. This bug would have been found in 5 minutes if they had put this out to PTS.

You can laud their openness all you want, but consider this:

a) at any point in the 100+ days it took to get this update out, if one person at BW had thought to look at any of the operations bosses, this would have been noticed.

b) this fix date is AFTER the release of Eternal Championship. Do you see the major problem there, seeing as it's pretty safe this bug will affect EC?

c) For experienced, talented groups this is an issue that is manageable. Idiotic, but manageable. For inexperienced players i.e. newer players, it is certainly not. So all those fresh new subs that have leveled their characters and walk into all these nice sunny level 65 Operations are getting the shaft.

I'm glad you can find some sort of silver lining to this. Personally, I think it's pathetic. This is an issue that requires hotfix and anything short of that is derelict. I expect the community manager to be explaining in no uncertain terms that the response he has been given is unacceptable and to impress reality upon his development team.

Their communication has been much worse in the past. If I want to stay here and play this game I need to at least acknowledge the positives. Call it pathetic, but what I think is pathetic is people who are still subbed when they don't even see the positives anymore.

I know that when I play a BW game that I will like the game itself and that it will come with bugs. Hell I remember playing the original Dragon Age with all the memory leak issues that they denied for a looooong time till suddenly there was a fix that took care of it...and thereby finally acknowledging it was a bug. BW is Bugware in that respect and you can either accept that and deal with it or run away and never come back.

I don't blame people for complaining about it, on the contrary I quite distinctly said it sucks, but what then? BW isn't gonna change how they do things. They never have. I've played games of other companies too, they also had bugs, some fixed bugs quicker others didn't, some had better CS, others didn't.

If you are sick of these bugs and how BW handle it, that's cool. You're not wrong. But are you then going to stop playing or not? If you keep playing when you can't handle this, that's pathetic. For myself, to keep things enjoyable in spite of this nonsense I have to focus on at least what's positive. If I don't I will quit the game.

But take it from me, after a thread full of fair comments and exaggerations what else can I add to this. It's broken, not everybody has the same problem and BW will take a while to fix it. How is this anything new?

I am not capable of comprehending words with two vowels adjacent to each other ... it's a medical condition. Thanks for making me fell self-conscious about it.

Musco responded to this thread and created a firestorm ... he's been silent ever since then. I have no clue what an reasonable timeline is for them to fix the bug. As I said in my first post, I am dubious that it should take 2 months, but I'm no expert.

However, what is completely unacceptable is that BW is allowing the perception to exist & grow that they do not care about the raiding population. That falls right at the feet of Musco.

I didn't claim you were a BioWare fanboy. But even if you are understandably trying to just find the positive part of it, this is not the place to look. I'm not going to celebrate BioWare's "good" communication of bad decisions. This is not an issue that you take two months to fix. This is not an issue that you underpromise and overdeliver (did I just say that about a perspective BioWare fix) on. This is an issue that you hotfix that week. Or if you can't do it that week then you give regular updates on why the fix is delayed. This isn't something you potentially let fester for two months.

There is no financial incentive for them to tell you earlier than they have to that it will never be a priority. If it was and people were leaving, they would be the first to get out there and say "Hey we are looking hard at group content and will be rolling things out <insert date here>.". Since they will not give a straight answer, this means they have nothing positive to say and the truth would only drive more away earlier. If they can get a few more months or more of sub time from people, they are going to do that.