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lilathrone
01.20.2016 , 08:18 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by Suromir View Post
I love how the person trying to watch the cutscenes are always the ones to be made out to be the victim.

There's a solo mode, enjoy that at your own pace.

Fact is you're making 3 others sit through the cutscenes for you. ONE person is making a FP take longer than it has too. Very few are still doing it for the "story" even on RP servers.

Sorry but I call bs on this whole thing. Sure most people over-react when someone won't spacebar and act like children (like those two) but the fact still remains that YOU were making two other people sit through that for YOURSELF when you could just run it solo.

Typically I don't care...well usually I want to skip but I don't make a thing of it..I'll wait. Only time I get really pissed about it is if it's BT or Esseles, as those cutscenes turn a 15 min run into 45mins-hour or more. In those cases I typically just leave the group.

So get out of here with this "woe-is-me" crap. You can run it solo and enjoy the story without putting others out and making them take more time. I swear you people have the "victims" backwards here and in every thread like this.
Anything other than Esseles/BT cutscenes can be sit through as they have max 1-2 minutes of cutscenes.
So why would anyone care? Because what will they do with that precious 1-2 minutes? Alt tabbing on fleet, yay.
Cutscenes are part of the content whether ppl like it or not. Demanding to skip content from other players is wrong.
Simple as that.
And before 4.0 you didn't have solo mode and players still got vote kicked from STORY FP groups because they wouldn't spacebar.

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Icestar
01.20.2016 , 08:24 AM | #72
Tell them that you are new and would like to see it. We are alot of old school players out there that respects that.

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Pagy
01.20.2016 , 08:29 AM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by durasteel View Post
It's simple: the "default" way to run the flashpoint is to follow the path and watch the cutscenes. Once you've been there a time or two, you learn that you can jump down a level or run across a ledge and bypass several groups of trash mobs, just like you can hit the spacebar to skip a couple lines of dialog. That doesn't mean it is the "right" way to do it, though. It is an optional shortcut. You only take the shortcut if everyone is on-board with that. If not, then just take the time to do it right.

Kicking someone from a flashpoint because they want to actually play through the flashpoint as it was designed to be played... that's the kind of turd move that you really only see people pull when they're protected by the anonymity of the internet. Actually blaming that person for ruining your fun... that's some of the worst gamer entitlement I've ever seen.
this is an online multiplayer game. if 3 people want to kick a 4th they can do so FOR ANY REASON. there is a vote option for this very purpose.

if you'd rather not have interaction with other players in a co-operative fashion, perhaps a singleplayer game is more up your alley.

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TheSeventhJedi
01.20.2016 , 08:39 AM | #74
I just yell along too like it's not me who's not spacebarring. God guys! Who isn't spacebarring? Let's GO!
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Isnogut
01.20.2016 , 09:06 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by lilathrone View Post
Anything other than Esseles/BT cutscenes can be sit through as they have max 1-2 minutes of cutscenes.
So why would anyone care? Because what will they do with that precious 1-2 minutes? Alt tabbing on fleet, yay.
Cutscenes are part of the content whether ppl like it or not. Demanding to skip content from other players is wrong.
Simple as that.
No it is not! Why should "I" care for one player, If I want to do more stuff and am totally bored by those cutscenes?

3 Minuts, now count them by 5 for each FP where somebody want to see the cuscenes and I got to critical mass. We don't hve to do this and having to be indulgent for each end every one is not what we are here for. Most of us did those dreat FP's for hundereds of times. We do them, because we have to in order to gain wat we want. We are mostly not doing them for real fun. So why are some poeple selfish? You do want to run through the content, it's fine by me, but why do I have to take it during my time? I simply don't. You have another option, we don't. So, why are you bothering us with your demands?

And you are wondering why so many people tend to kickvote others? Frankly this is simple democracy. 3 vs 1. The one is not indulgent about the decision he has to go. Hard but plain and simple.

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ImmortalLowlife
01.20.2016 , 09:08 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
this is an online multiplayer game. if 3 people want to kick a 4th they can do so FOR ANY REASON. there is a vote option for this very purpose.

if you'd rather not have interaction with other players in a co-operative fashion, perhaps a singleplayer game is more up your alley.
It's attitudes like THIS that are one of the main reasons I refuse to do any content that requires a group. If I tell you at the beginning "I haven't done this and want to see the cut scenes.." telling me to sb is a quick way to get cussed out.

Thankfully BW gave y'all what you asked for..except the single player game isn't over there..... It's right here. Solo fp, heroics, even an OP....and of course KotFE. All designed for the solo player
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Pagy
01.20.2016 , 09:11 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalLowlife View Post
It's attitudes like THIS that are one of the main reasons I refuse to do any content that requires a group. If I tell you at the beginning "I haven't done this and want to see the cut scenes.." telling me to sb is a quick way to get cussed out.
i wouldnt tell you to spacebar, i'd ask you to space bar. if you don't want to, then one of the two of us are in the minority. let the majority of the group decide and i'll live with either decision. we were randomly paired together, we're not married. i can votekick or drop if i feel strongly enough about something.
Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalLowlife View Post
Thankfully BW gave y'all what you asked for..except the single player game isn't over there..... It's right here. Solo fp, heroics, even an OP....and of course KotFE. All designed for the solo player
so why aren't you in that mode then?

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ImmortalLowlife
01.20.2016 , 09:27 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
so why aren't you in that mode then?

Quote: Originally Posted by ImmortalLowlife View Post
It's attitudes like THIS that are one of the main reasons I refuse to do any content that requires a group.
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psandak
01.20.2016 , 09:29 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by durasteel View Post
Bovine manure.

If you want to watch the cutscenes and dialog, for the first or 50th time, you absolutely ought to be able to do that. The only way that (or any) content should be skipped is if everyone agrees to it. Three people don't get to tell the fourth that he or she can't play the game the way it was meant to be played.

If you find the cutscenes so unbearably tedious, what the hell are you doing running the flashpoint in the first place? This game is designed around dialog scenes, didn't you notice? I mean, I spacebar past every possible "huttese" line, because hearing the same voice say the same gibberish has really lost its appeal, but I'm certainly not going to wet myself in nerdrage if you want to savor every syllable. Knock yourself out, take your time, it's not that big a deal.
Read the rest of my post: for the most part I do not care either way - I will ABSOLUTELY NOT kick a player just because he/she decides to watch the cutscenes. But if someone asks for the group to spacebar, and two respond, "I am," then IMO it is rude for the fourth to make us wait.

Why do *I* run FPs? CONQUEST plain and simple...I want the personal goal reward for the crafting material. I would rather group with three strangers and do FPs for that personal goal than do dailies and/or heroics. Does that mean I have to accept players who do not think like I do? YES! Does that mean I HAVE to accept their style of play over my own? NO! If there are more in the group like me, I expect the minority to conform.

Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Your psychic powers tell you who is not space barring, do they?
No but when the question is asked: "SB?" and two respond, "I am" and the third is mute...it's pretty obvious

Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
When I see a lvl 60 healer with 1,000 total achievement points, I already know we're in trouble.
I disagree with that assumption. Just as an example using level 60 token characters...they will not have those achievements, but their legacy might. I am leveling a "free 60" Shadow to eventually tank. My first character was a Guardian tank. I am intimately familiar with tanking. The specifics of shadow tanking may be different than guardian tanking, but that does not mean I do not know how to tank on my Shadow.

Or using an opposite faction character... I play mostly Pub side, I have played through every story on the Imp side, I want to run my operative through an FP, she's normally DPS but I do have healing gear. She does not have many achievements because I do not play her a lot. OTOH my pub side sawbones scoundrel was my main for more than a year, I ran and completed NiM Ops with him. If you encountered my operative and assumed I am no good at healing with that character you'd be wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by lilathrone View Post
Anything other than Esseles/BT cutscenes can be sit through as they have max 1-2 minutes of cutscenes.
So why would anyone care? Because what will they do with that precious 1-2 minutes? Alt tabbing on fleet, yay.
Cutscenes are part of the content whether ppl like it or not. Demanding to skip content from other players is wrong.
Simple as that.
And before 4.0 you didn't have solo mode and players still got vote kicked from STORY FP groups because they wouldn't spacebar.
As someone else pointed out some players are running A LOT of FPs just for the conquest points. Add those 1-2 minutes per FP together and you could squeeze in another FP; or it's 1-2 minutes a DPS character can be in the queue. These are extreme examples, but there is logic to them.

Quote: Originally Posted by Icestar View Post
Tell them that you are new and would like to see it. We are alot of old school players out there that respects that.
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Wolfeisberg
01.20.2016 , 10:12 AM | #80
Are all flashpoints have a solo mode now? I was under the impression that less than half of them have a solo mode. I found a list that show the solo modes I do run those solo. But the flashpoint that were not on that list I run with groups and I have been vote kicked a lot because I want to watch the stories because I have never seen them before.

So we're all flashpoints have a solo mode now?
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