One More (And My Own) Angry Rant About Rishi Datacrons

I'm not focusing on one mob. I'm focusing on your argument that it/they should spawn faster to satiate your need to get the rewards faster, rather than putting time and effort into completing the entire reward. You're the one sounding silly, and falling in with the "me now!" crowd, simply because you don't want to wait as long to get it.

On the starter and early planets, you could ask in the general chat and someone would be willing o show where the Datachron is - not so much on later planets, where there are so few people on these plants that it is hard to get an answer at all.

Apart from using guides, I basically stopped getting them with Hoth.
Not because of the effort, but rather becaue I'd have to use a guide for it. And my gaming principle nowadays is to use a guide as sparse as possible (Operations are the only exception here). It's part of my way to play games to try to discover everything by myself. But some thgings are just hard to piece together. I still can't believe that a single person with no support at all was able to get out the secret of the Adegan crystals ? Or the Tauntaun pet ? Or the egg ?

You are not focusing on one mob and arent ignoring the rest of the collecting journey? Riiiiiight.

And reducing frustration doesnt necessarily mean I would promote instant gratification. I dont. Because I only have the fleet datacron left you cant claim I didnt put any effort into it. I already wrote that I did that journey gladly. Im only frustrated about ONE MOB, not the entire journey. I dont know how much I can dumb this down further for you.

I too, was a little bit disappointed in the Rishi datacrons.

They were one of the handful of datacrons in this game I cheated to get... ie used a guide online.

I always found it fun to look and hunt for them on my own without the help of other people/guides. But these datacrons, while the majority of the hunt was super fun, relied on one thing that negated the whole process: blind luck.

To start the quest, you didn't need any skills... just be lucky, to find the mobs to start the chain.

Let me put it another way. I've spent days on planets searching for datacrons. Doing nothing but running around, searching high and low. And I don't regret a moment of it. However, the Rishi ones that require you to do that and farm with a chance to start the mission... that's just not acceptable.

Please, for future datacrons, they should either be there and obtainable or not. No luck factors.

Low-odds RNG drop is "fake" difficulty - it's a slot machine. There's no element of skill to it, you either get lucky on respawn, or you don't. For the one speeder, it doesn't bug me one way or another - it's just a cosmetic thing. The Rishi 'crons do bug me, since they grant a mechanical advantage. I don't have a problem with the Makeb 'cron being gated behind a nasty jump puzzle, that's a skill, and you can get better at it. You're not going to "get better" at farming.

I've actively done the Rishi grophet hunt twice since SoR early access, but have actually collect the sets four times. You don't know pain if you weren't there when the drops were tagged as colorless trash that vanished when you sent your comp off to sell trash while you were out hunting grophets. That taught me to never assume BW would make every mission critical item an actual mission critical item or at least a white item, so it couldn't get auto-trashed.

Then try the early days when there'd be twenty people all lurking around the spawn points, waiting to tag the named mobs, before racing point to point around the mountain. to beat the four minute thirty second respawns. And two of the mobs have a 5% chance to spawn, but one has like a less than 1% chance. It took me all of early access to get a complete set of three tokens, playing constantly on Rishi. I never even reached Yavin until week two. That's after losing my first set with the vendor trash. And by playing I mean camping those spawn points.

Just like the Dessler speeder drop on CZ-198, standing around doing absolutely nothing for hours is hardly gameplay. It takes no skill, only the ability to use the timer on your phone and stubbornness not to give up and just go actually play the game. You put the game on hold to stare at a spot on the map and hope there isn't a stealther around the corner waiting to aoe tag the mob that's harder to spot than Jimmy Hoffa.

Doing the little treasure hunt AFTER the grophet bit was the actual fun, gameplay part with exploring, following the steps, finding the little skulls, etc. Well, it was fun until it bugged out on the final step and you discovered the last rockpile wasn't clickable and you'd just wasted your grophet tokens and the needed buffs didn't carry over if you switched instances. That was how I lost my SECOND set of three tokens.

After that, I never bothered camping the grophets again. I immediately logged into every single toon I had that could travel to Rishi, regardless of level, and took the path of zero mob pulls (yes it exists) in order to stack them all on the cliffs overlooking the location of the datacrons. Then, while running my 55s through Rishi, whenever the word went out the datacrons had been revealed, I'd log into as many toons as I could, hop them down the cliff face and scoop up the datacrons.

Since then, questing on various alts over the course of a year, I've collected two more full sets of tokens just by being lucky while and spotting the named grophets. Rishi is pretty dead at this point. It was one of these times that I actually got to keep the achievements for killing the grophets, since they vanished on log out during early access when I originally did it.

BW needs more activities like the Makeb end datacron or the actual treasure hunt on Rishi (that aren't bugged on the last step) and zero more standing around staring at the ground waiting for a one in a hundred chance mob to spawn. If you want the mob to be a part of the puzzle, instance it and make the instance really difficult to reach and prevent guild ship teleporting in that area. Anything other than spawn camping.

Even easier with an assassin and teleport. Just hit teleport when you fall.

Quoted for truth. Less wait, more interaction with mechanics.

4-5 hours if I remember correctly. That includes one random tactical.

1) I traveled between all 3 locations until I got the thing on main island.
2) I traveled between 2 locations on northern island where village is.
3) I collected all the datacrons like a champion.

No chests though.

It's a different generation unfortunately, and what is causing the downfall of the genre, because the content they want is simply unattainable at the rates they want it. Between online guides removing any point in providing content that requires brainpower, and the apparent inability of gamers to wait more than 3 seconds for anything at all, it is impossible to meet the demands.

Back in the day I did the EQ paladin's fiery avenger quest, which was engaging, tough, time consuming and as well as being competitive for spawns. I can't even imagine the level of rage such a quest would generate these days.