Hook us up with some dual spec.

Yea it's definitely my #1 thing I would like to see added/changed in the game. I would LOVE to switch on my BH Powertech so I could become a healer (not liking tanking on it after lvl 40, liking my Assassin more).

Seriously, it's best of both worlds. If anything you will get MORE support classes out of it. I'm sure there are PLENTY of people who want to switch to tank/heals on an alt, if not on a main.

Few fun facts about SWTOR:

1) Tanks and healers level at least at the rate as dps, there is no reason to swap from tank/healer to dps for exping since being able to heal or having tanking mitigation usualy helps more than being a pure dps (thanks for companion system).

2) It possibly vary server to server, but i find it easier to find a healer (or a tank, im playing one but i see sh*tload of them) than DPS just because they are generaly easier and faster to level with (at least by my oppinion as i tried only a tank and a dd, but u just gotta agree, dont you).

3) Healers had always the ultimate role in PvP so i see no reason why someone would swap from healer to dps for pvp, if they wanted to be a DD then why would they spec to healing... Same goes with tanks, since PvP tanking is viable, stressing out "GUARD".

4) All DD trees should be (we have no way to tell without a combat log) balanced in terms on PvE damage and viable in PvP, so dual spec doesnt really make sense for pure DD classes.

5) Now we are getting dual spec, after a while the vocal minority (i was thinking for like 5 minutes to figure out a non-rude word) will want faster speeders, then they will want to jump 15 meters high, then we get pokemon pets and playable tentacled panda aliens. They wanted to take the best of theme-park mmo, they do not have to copy every single blizzards sorry a_ss excuse for game mechanism (if they made all specs viable in all aspects of the game, they wouldnt need it and dont say otherwise pls for it would be a shameful lie).


Few facts about WoW:

1) WoW is dieing since TBC and its not a hatefull comment, merely stating the fact (yes i played for 7 years).

2) Dual Spec is a neccesity because tanks can only tank and healers can only heal while their farming & exping capabilities are a little (alot) below the average DD Joe, however that doesnt meam the game where DD, Tanks and Healers are on par with each other need it, it means the game DOESNT need it.

3) Cant really think of anything else relevant, just making number three so i dont have to change "few" to "two" as it takes too much effort, just as chosing my playstyle instead of swapping it around.



EDIT: Also I considered myself a hardcore pve player in times WoW still has some level of achivement included. I experienced some battlegroup/server first kills, Onyxia, pre-nerf Kael, Illidan, Algalon and few others. Was playing guilds offtank since vanila, as MT was the guildmaster. Saying as much, i welcomed dual spec in WoW, i finaly could tank for the guild AND do pvp/farm stuff efficiently. But i NEVER EVER was asked to be a damage dealer in raids, i never got the gear unless there was noone else to take it for my offspec and never ever i saw anyone from my guild to be geared for two roles they could fulfit in a raid. Offspec = alt. You dont progress with alts. True story.

I would tend to agree that generally it is the Hardcore who desire dual specing for the reasons you stated.

My ability to PvP in Seer spec is a moot point. Even if I intended to heal in PvP, my optimal spec for doing so may be different than my optimal PvE healing spec. Playing PvP specced players with my PvE spec, is.... less than ideal.

well the problem with that logic is that wow was popular before it had dual specing.

No dual spec.

I'm a Combat Medic, that's what I am. If you want to flip flop you pay the fee.

In case you have not noticed what you and others actually want is to change your AC. This comes about because as the game stands now you can change your tree inside your AC as often as you want for a fee. What you can not do is change your AC. You feel you need a different spec to pvp with today you just go to the skill mentor pay you fee and it is changed. You a dps who has available a healing tree go see the skill mentor and pay a fee. Thus you must really be asking to change ones AC.

saw that happen alot in wow and in rift.

@tholdrin

1. I agree that the Companion system makes leveling with pretty much any spec possible, and I'm a Seer, personally, since I think it's an optimal leveling build. That said, restricting player choice, and flexibility is never really a good thing... and my buddy who's playing a tank, is having a really hard time leveling, and would love to have a dual spec option for when he's running solo.

2. Milage may vary. I witnessed a group of three looking for a healer for about an hour last night, before I felt like helping them. Some roles will always be more rare than others, so even if a certain kind of CC was the rarity, it'd still be a good thing to have dual spec.

3 and 4. So if someone likes to PvP with one spec, but PvE with another, they should PvP with their PvE spec anyway, because it's viable. Got it.

5. I don't feel like responding to a slippery slope fallacy argument.


On the WoW stuff:

WoW is a 7 year game, and a LOT of changes happened since TBC. I personally think that balancing around Arena and PvE at the same time stressed their balance team to the max, and that cross server LFG damaged the community. But... I quit Warcraft a loooong time ago.

Red herring/strawman/equivocation, are you practicing how many fallacies you can stick in one paragragh?