In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

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In SWTOR the "Real" Game starts at level 1

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Riavan

12.28.2011 , 06:06 PM \| #41	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Klarick All I can say is that you and I are obviously playing a different game. In my SWTOR the missions are incredibly well written and voice-acted. WHat BW has done here is nothing short of spectacular. You must be playing a different game then, because the only difference in quest structure is that there is a chain of story quests in each planet (zone), available only to your class alone. It starts feeling like a grind tattoonie (24+) when the other non-storyline quests get very repetitive and samey.
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Tyrloch

12.28.2011 , 06:08 PM \| #42	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by YzenDanek The problem you're not facing, though, is that a subscription based game has to be able to keep up whatever it's best at more or less indefinitely. This game is built a lot like Bioware's other games, that one plays for 50ish hours and then eventually removes from their hard drives, resigned only to collect dust in its case on a bookshelf. MMOs need subs to survive. This game is going to have to turn the corner until the next expansion from story-based to endgame-based. Does it look ready to do that? I played City of Heroes for 3 years (Sept '06 - Aug '08). A couple of months after starting I founded an SG (Guild). Over that next weekend I managed to recruit a dozen or so other people to my guild. A week or so later I recruited Neo. After burning out on WoW in August (where I had been since leaving CoH 3 years earlier) I logged back into CoH again. (I would play CoH for an evening or so ever 6-8 months, so it wasn't like I was never around). Neo is now the GL. Most of those people who I recruited that first weekend are still there. My Guild went on without me just fine. What were you saying about a game must have a strong raiding end game or awsome PvP to retain players?

Riavan

12.28.2011 , 06:10 PM \| #43	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Tyrloch I played City of Heroes for 3 years (Sept '06 - Aug '08). A couple of months after starting I founded an SG (Guild). Over that next weekend I managed to recruit a dozen or so other people to my guild. A week or so later I recruited Neo. After burning out on WoW in August (where I had been since leaving CoH 3 years earlier) I logged back into CoH again. (I would play CoH for an evening or so ever 6-8 months, so it wasn't like I was never around). Neo is now the GL. Most of those people who I recruited that first weekend are still there. My Guild went on without me just fine. What were you saying about a game must have a strong raiding end game or awsome PvP to retain players? Yeah, but the thing is, city of heroes etc was a pretty budget title, Tor couldn't survive with the same tiny community. Also, this is wow in space, its obviously made to cater to wow players, considering everything, everything, is the same, except for some class based missions/quests in each zone which everyone is hyping up like crazy, so you would want decent pvp/raid content to satisfy the target demographic.
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CptKloss

12.28.2011 , 06:10 PM \| #44	Quote
and ends when you finish black talon, lol....that's when you have to run 10 minutes each way to turn quesfs in
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soujirop

12.28.2011 , 06:17 PM \| #45	Quote
Agree with the OP, other MMOS are so boring, leveling up a character in WoW is HELL.

dukaso

12.28.2011 , 06:27 PM \| #46	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Nmaharg Yes it is.... Raids. Check. Hardmodes. Check. Battlegrounds. Check Everything you need to enjoy endgame is there, plus you have a bunch of single player missions. It's WoW and more. Except for the part about combat mechanics. I love Bioware, I really do, but they really dropped the ball on that.

Kinwood

12.28.2011 , 06:45 PM \| #47	Quote
Nothing you do leveling really changes the endgame. You're companion hates you? Give him a gift. Your Darkside? Do Diplomacy. You are also mistaken. Your choices wont bring you closure, or a different ending. In a Bioware RPG, yeah, a choice can make a difference in the ending. Story in STOR is inconsequential. Nothing actually has any effect. In STOR, kill X pirates gets quite boring. Then the dialog says i'm thinning/reducing their numbers. Really? If i go back and look, the exact same pirates are there. The exact same boss i killed is there. They aint foolin me! Wow Phasing. - Should be standard tech on all new MMO's. I feel all MMO's should have phasing. It's just too important not to have anymore.

Klarick

12.28.2011 , 07:58 PM \| #48	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Reecelol if you think cut scenes and voice acting make the quest anything but "pick up 10x item" or "kill 10x boars" youre fooling yourself. Nope. However, I think the cut scenes and voice acting make the "questing" the most immersive experience I have ever seen in any MMO -- and I have played many of them.

Apax

12.28.2011 , 08:01 PM \| #49	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Klarick Those that are new to MMO's may not fully appreciate this topics title. Let me explain. In most MMO's the "Real" game does not start until you reach the highest level and begin running the "so-called end-game content". Take the king of MMOS, WoW, as an example. The road from 1-85 is an excruciating one where nothing you do will have any impact on your toon at level 85. It is called a "grind" for a reason. WoW is not the only culprit here. Most MMOs follow this same broken paradigm. Don't fool yourself. All MMOs have a story that begins at level 1. Whether you choose to personally acknowledge it and allow yourself to enjoy the journey or not is another issue entirely. Not all of us need to have the quest dialogue read to us to enjoy a story.

ducoalexandre

12.28.2011 , 08:09 PM \| #50	Quote
Leveling a toon in WoW is boring for me NOW, but it was awesome in 2005 when i first played the game.

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