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Item Stack Resale Exploit

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jimmorrisson
12.08.2015 , 11:36 AM | #61
I am all for "light bans" especially when the exploit is developer's bug

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lokimogor
12.08.2015 , 11:45 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Jamtas View Post
The issue here is many created separate accounts to participate in the exploit and then through gtn or other channels, got the items or creds back to their main accounts. Then it becomes very difficult for BW to say you exploited and sold to yourself, vs you bought a stack of exploited items off the gtn. Their credits made their way into the economy already. They took those exploited credits and bought legitimate items off gtn as well. Cant go back and reverse all sales - don't know which are legitimate or not. It's a giant web that can't be cleaned up.

This is why these exploits should be disabled (vendor temporarily removed from game, etc). It is too difficult to fully trace all the accounts and gains to the cheaters. And they will persist. Permaban their alt account- no biggie. It was all done for their main with the alt account being expendable.
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Glower
12.08.2015 , 11:46 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by jimmorrisson View Post
I am all for "light bans" especially when the exploit is developer's bug
Exploits are always after a bug, unless you are a hacker.
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Transcendent
12.08.2015 , 11:51 AM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

As of today’s patch, we fixed the following bug: It is no longer possible to purchase a stack of items and resell individual items for the price of the entire stack.

In a previous exploit, we were very up front and very public about its existence. We raised warnings as soon as we discovered the issue associated with the Temple Chair, with the hopes our players would not use it. What we discovered, were many players using a variety of ways to try and mask what they were doing and who they were. So, this time, we returned to removing visibility until we resolved it.

This bug created an exploit where a player could make large quantities of various currencies in the game with minimal effort. Use of the bug in this manner is something we absolutely consider an exploit. We are looking over the data of players who participated, and to what degree. We will begin taking action against accounts within the next few days. Action that will be taken includes:
  • Suspension, up to and including permanent suspension
  • Removal of credits
  • Removal of Commendations and other currency
  • Removal of Companion affection
I can only reiterate, if you discover an exploit, do not use it. Report it to the team immediately. You can do so via an in-game /bug or feel free to PM myself or Tait about it on the forums. Please, do not post about it publicly.

Thanks everyone. I will pass on updates as I have them.

-eric
Appreciate the candour Eric.

Having been on the receiving end of the Temple Chair exploit actions, I do hope you extend your actions into tracking anything that has been added into guild banks (currency and items purchased on the GTN with the ill-gotten gains and then placed into guild bank tabs and / or removed by other players within the guild).

There shouldn't be anyway players should profit from this.
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TUXs
12.08.2015 , 11:52 AM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by dscount View Post
I totally agree with this. Not sure why they don't instantly "HOTFIX" exploits the second they are found/validated. As a START LOCK it down so nobody can use.

I mean Ravagers exploit... LOCK down the instance so nobody could run that Operation. Sure lots of folks upset, but it would have stopped Loot X-mas last year. This year for X-mas we get Deco X-mas and the bad vendor in question could have just been locked down as well (not sell anything). Chair exploit - same thing (Lock it until hotfix).
Agreed. This is how they should be handling these things...not laying in wait hoping to entice others into cheating so they can bust more players. Just disable the vendor. Remove end boss loot. That's how you prevent it from spreading, not "observing".
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MiguelGx
12.08.2015 , 11:53 AM | #66
Ban them all!

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TX_Angel
12.08.2015 , 11:56 AM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Neoforcer View Post
They give people plenty of time with he last 2 exploit to tell them enough is enough so yes permanent ban to finally tell people you hear some thing about a exploit weather it is pvp or pve don't do it
You assume that everyone was around for that and was reading the forums...

What about a newer player who doesn't visit the forums, was told about it in game by someone or found it on their own, and just did it for themselves and didn't sell anything.

Would you ban that person?
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Glower
12.08.2015 , 11:59 AM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
You assume that everyone was around for that and was reading the forums...

What about a newer player who doesn't visit the forums, was told about it in game by someone or found it on their own, and just did it for themselves and didn't sell anything.

Would you ban that person?
Why not?
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joethepain
12.08.2015 , 12:00 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

As of today’s patch, we fixed the following bug: [I]It is no longer possible to purchase a stack of items

-eric

yeah including midlithe crystals and various relics that are not showing in GTN

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ryoutou
12.08.2015 , 12:01 PM | #70
The /facepalm is really high here. Couldn't spare one single dev to hit the handful of servers and nab the auctions for the stacks of 99 this morning.

So, those, also will vanish into the ether as people snap them up knowing the exploit has been shut down and can flip in a few weeks.

I really just don't know if it is that they are down to a couple of folks with snap, and that those have no power of any kind there or what?
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