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I like level sync more than I thought I would. I also wouldn't mind if it was optional, with the caveat that the devs would probably remove any rewards or Conquest progress for not being synced.

I have to ask... Why is it the only time you people "don't care" is when all rewards and progress are removed from those who would choose not to sync (which shows you're missing the point of something being optional)?

Why does how someone else plays matter to you?

It doesn't affect you in any way if it's easier for them. It should be, and always should have been, optional, period. With full rewards and everything else. This is the benefit for having grinded out the levels.

It isn't an "option" to go through the motions and get no reward, it's pointless.

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That's not missing the point of it being optional. It's creating a fair playing field. This is when it all boils down to it a game. We all play within the parameters of the rules. What you're missing is that it ceases to be optional if their is a clearly superior option.

This is exactly the option we're discussing:

Doing Heroics without level sync: Godmode
Doing Heroic with level sync: Easy, but not godmode

And that's not an exaggeration. After you're ten levels ahead of the NPCs they lose almost all their ability to hit you. Pulling whole rooms isn't anymore dangerous that fighting a weak NPC at level. There is literally no risk at all. It's also much faster since you have access to your full damage and abilities.

So if the rewards are the same, people would not allow themselves to be synced because it is the clearly inferior option.



Because this is not a single player game. Hypothetical for you. Let's say they sold top-tier raid gear in the Cartel Market. It's completely optional whether you buy it or not. But doing so obviously would make the game much easier. Does that not matter to you? Would you be totally OK with that?

That example is completely analogous to what you're talking about. From your statement, it should not matter to me if people buy all their rewards. Doesn't affect me anymore than people earning their raid gear. But I would be gone in an instant if they did.

Bonus question: In the inevitable forum war that would result, who would take the role of the 'elitists'? The people, who because of real life accomplishment are able to buy the best gear, or the others who because of having more spare time or ability can earn the best gear?



It absolutely does affect me and everyone else when people can add to the economy, progress faster, and earn more with less effort. MMORPGs are social constructs. Even if I want a challenge, having access to much easier rewards would create significant incentives to access those rewards.

Challenge only exists if it's not optional. Like "The One and Only" title. That title is absolutely meaningless if you can do it without the challenge. It's just grinding at that point. The whole point is the challenge. So no, if you're doing the Chamber of Speech (Tython Heroic) as a level 65 Guardian, you absolutely shouldn't get the same rewards as someone syncing to level 12. Both are dead easy, but at least the level synced character CAN die. The 65 Guardian is just collecting loot.

That's not missing the point of it being optional. It's creating a fair playing field. This is when it all boils down to it a game. We all play within the parameters of the rules. What you're missing is that it ceases to be optional if their is a clearly superior option.

This is exactly the option we're discussing:

Doing Heroics without level sync: Godmode
Doing Heroic with level sync: Easy, but not godmode

And that's not an exaggeration. After you're ten levels ahead of the NPCs they lose almost all their ability to hit you. Pulling whole rooms isn't anymore dangerous that fighting a weak NPC at level. There is literally no risk at all. It's also much faster since you have access to your full damage and abilities.

So if the rewards are the same, people would not allow themselves to be synced because it is the clearly inferior option.



Because this is not a single player game. Hypothetical for you. Let's say they sold top-tier raid gear in the Cartel Market. It's completely optional whether you buy it or not. But doing so obviously would make the game much easier. Does that not matter to you? Would you be totally OK with that?

That example is completely analogous to what you're talking about. From your statement, it should not matter to me if people buy all their rewards. Doesn't affect me anymore than people earning their raid gear. But I would be gone in an instant if they did.

Bonus question: In the inevitable forum war that would result, who would take the role of the 'elitists'? The people, who because of real life accomplishment are able to buy the best gear, or the others who because of having more spare time or ability can earn the best gear?



It absolutely does affect me and everyone else when people can add to the economy, progress faster, and earn more with less effort. MMORPGs are social constructs. Even if I want a challenge, having access to much easier rewards would create significant incentives to access those rewards.

Challenge only exists if it's not optional. Like "The One and Only" title. That title is absolutely meaningless if you can do it without the challenge. It's just grinding at that point. The whole point is the challenge. So no, if you're doing the Chamber of Speech (Tython Heroic) as a level 65 Guardian, you absolutely shouldn't get the same rewards as someone syncing to level 12. Both are dead easy, but at least the level synced character CAN die. The 65 Guardian is just collecting loot.

So, all the fanboiz who slobbered all over themselves about how much they love the new level sync system, and at the same time blasted away at anyone who tried to point out the horrible flaws/nerf........how do you all feel now?

The same. How do you feel?

I feel great, thanks for asking.

So no problems, then. Outstanding.

No, not at all. The forums are an exercise in verbal and mental combat, that really helps to invigorate.