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How level-sync kills the game for me

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How level-sync kills the game for me

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DanNV
11.03.2015 , 04:23 PM | #91
I'm seeing Shadowlands be very busy, lots of instances and if the Heroic isn't instanced you have to wait to do all of it. From where I'm sitting, it looks like the expansion is a success and people are enjoying level sync. I haven't seen any griping in general chat. Personally, I like it. I think they did a good thing and did it pretty well.
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Darth-Obvious
11.03.2015 , 05:22 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
The point is, I do not like doing heroics.
YOU don't like doing heroics, but as we've established you are in the minority on this and don't represent what is best for the over all population of the game.

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As farming credits is necessary to be well geared for engame content (in my case pvp)
forcing players to do heroic quests in order to be prepare for it is generally not a good idea.
Complete and utter lie, as usual.

Nearly everything you purchase in the game for anything end game related is done with some kind of token(s) No end game gear costs credits. Hell the majority of things you can buy in the game now from vendors require crystals or some kind of token. Not credits.

I don't know why you constantly state numerous things like this as if they are fact.

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Apart from the fact that heroics are less efficient credit per hour wise than my ultra farming spot of awesomeness
why should I play a game that requires me to do something a lot that I do not like doing only to be able to enjoy awfully balanced pvp because they've spent their money and time develloping story.
Yeah dude it's an MMO go figure. Every MMO throughout history has that same exact situation. There's always going to be some part of the game that players don't want to do or grind through to get something they want. You are not special here. You're just selfish and greedy.

The saddest part about all of this is that you're complaining that the game isn't allowing you to be selfish and greedy.


Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
2nd:Okay why would it be that ''hard'' to do?
How about you first explain why it's not hard at all do to? You said that exact thing as if it were a fact even though you don't know how the game is programmed, designed, coded, etc, yet you somehow know for a fact that what you're asking for what be hard despite the fact that it's a feature integrated across the entire game now. There is no going back now from a number of the 4.0 changes. They would have to go back to a previous 3.X build of the game, which isn't possible at this point . It would break so many systems that are now all tied together.

Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
So let's just clarify what level sync was designed for: (help would be appreciated)

1st: allowing you to enjoy story-content at your level, even if you are 65 and want to redo korriban quests.
2nd:.... add whatever comes to your mind
1) Level sync was designed to get the most use possible out of the game's existing content without having to generate new content. Every time they'd do an expansion the older content would become more and more pointless because everybody would always just flock to the new content.

2) The level sync mechanic was something they took from Guild Wars (2) and the reason they did that is because it's a good system that not only pushes players to go back to old areas but to also group up more and/or help other players.

You don't like the level sync because it makes the game less self serving, and puts more emphasis on a group of players than it does on an individual which is a problem that a lot of MMOs have, ie the game is designed in such a way that the player does whats best for themselves rather than what's best for everyone around them which is the model that Guild Wars (2) and Wildstar (to a certain extent) use.

Again, you're upset that you can't be as greedy, selfish, and lazy as you once were. Nice job.

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TX_Angel
11.03.2015 , 05:30 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Obvious View Post
Complete and utter lie, as usual.

Nearly everything you purchase in the game for anything end game related is done with some kind of token(s) No end game gear costs credits. Hell the majority of things you can buy in the game now from vendors require crystals or some kind of token. Not credits.
In fairness, the OP is probably referring to augments. The cost of the kits, the cost to install them, the cost to buy the augments, etc.

Frankly, crafting them makes sense to me, so I do so. In fact, so far in 4.0, it is the only thing I find worth the time to craft, but I might just be missing something there.

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Deyjarl
11.03.2015 , 05:38 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
I do not have the patience to earn credits via the ah.
Until now, I used to farm my credits for augments and gear optimization by killing mobs.
If you can't still farm mobs now with how companions make level sync irrelevant, the problem isn't the game.
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Artaniz
11.03.2015 , 05:42 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Deyjarl View Post
If you can't still farm mobs now with how companions make level sync irrelevant, the problem isn't the game.
A thousand times this , but this guy really just wants to complain , thats the thing everybody some people get their rocks off by ************ , me thinks we found one here.

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Erasimus
11.03.2015 , 05:56 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Vember View Post
I'm a pvp guy AND a story guy, and I love it.

To each their own, I guess.
I agree, I casually PvP and casually PvE and like level-sync. In fact I wish they'd tweak it a little bit more in the direction of making it more challenging.
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DarthDamontis
11.03.2015 , 06:04 PM | #97
I have no problems with it.


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Darth-Obvious
11.03.2015 , 06:12 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by TX_Angel View Post
In fairness, the OP is probably referring to augments. The cost of the kits, the cost to install them, the cost to buy the augments, etc.

Frankly, crafting them makes sense to me, so I do so. In fact, so far in 4.0, it is the only thing I find worth the time to craft, but I might just be missing something there.
Yeah I know, I was sort of blowing it out proportion the same way he was. Obviously he's spending credits on something gear related.

Regardless of that though he's complaining about the fact that he can't do PVP because of this now, yet PVP hasn't been the focus of SWTOR for quite sometime now. Like what exactly is SWTOR doing to keep PVP players interested? Nothing as far as I can tell, so why do they stay? Why not invest time in an MMO or game that is more PVP focused because a certain point the "Star Wars" part of it all can not outweigh all the problems it has.

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Blackbird
11.04.2015 , 01:03 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth-Obvious View Post
Yeah I know, I was sort of blowing it out proportion the same way he was.
Blowing things out of proportion is a lousy way to make a point, as you only undermine yourself, regardless of what your opponent is doing.

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Darth-Obvious
11.04.2015 , 02:56 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackbird View Post
Blowing things out of proportion is a lousy way to make a point, as you only undermine yourself, regardless of what your opponent is doing.
I was speaking in hyperbole to get the point across, which it does. The opponent, in this case the OP keeps making up things and/or lying to try and get his point across. Saying that he's flat out lying isn't really an exaggeration. What I was really doing was stressing a point, not blowing it out of proportion. I clearly used the phrase "blowing it out of proportion"in the wrong context in that last post.