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How level-sync kills the game for me

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How level-sync kills the game for me

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aristrokratie
11.03.2015 , 01:30 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by arunav View Post
Since it sounds as though you didn't play through the expac's story, it's kind of necessary for the endgame Alliance system that was implemented.

If BW were to make level-sync optional, they'd have to rework some of how Alliance rewards are granted/quest rewards, as heroics would basically need 2 reward options. I personally wouldn't mind this, but you'd also have to keep in mind a player such as yourself may make doing heroics on-level impossible for other players, because you'd keep taking all the objectives as a 65, while others are trying to do Alliance grinding on-level.

Lastly, though you may have only farmed credits occasionally, the system in large part prevents credit farmers from gaining as many credits as they otherwise did before. Don't get me wrong - a lot of credits still drop from heroic quests - but they are weekly, and the mobs don't drop as much now.

Overall, 4.0 has tried to put a pinch on how easily players gain credits, and level sync is another avenue to achieving it. It's annoying in some regards, but I can understand why BW would do it. I do question how effective it is, because after 3.5 years of the old system, some players are so wealthy that it doesn't really matter now, and it keeps others from catching up and having the ability to buy items they would like to on the GTN.
No, simply make level sync turned on required for heroics, make it optional, problem solved

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azudelphi
11.03.2015 , 01:43 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
No, simply make level sync turned on required for heroics, make it optional, problem solved
No, you aren't getting your credit farming back. Sorry.
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azudelphi
11.03.2015 , 01:44 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by -Spc View Post
I understand exactly how it works.
You can use any green gear on low level planet and get the same stats as with 224 gear.
This means gear is useless, also the missions on low planets are useless, you get low level drops from world bosses and other npc's.
I think you don't know how it works.
Wow, your low level greens are giving you 1100 crit rating, 800 alacrity, and 680 accuracy?

Oh they aren't? Then you are wrong about understanding how it works.
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IanArgent
11.03.2015 , 01:44 PM | #74
It's pretty clear that level sync is done on a per-planet basis; since even instances that would otherwise have no business being level synced (storyline instances on DK and Korriban, among others) are synced. I'm not a dev to be able to say why this is, but I can accept it as a fact.
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Rrusalka
11.03.2015 , 02:06 PM | #75
You know doing the Qyzen/Scorekeeper quests for WB's shows to me why this is a good thing. I have grouped with so many people that admit to playing for years and had never killed a WB. I stopped short of Lucky and Nightmare Pilgrim but led and joined groups to kill all the others.

It was good times and I walked away with Qyzen at 23ish. That wouldn't have happened before level synch as you could just go back and solo the majority.

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-Spc
11.03.2015 , 02:28 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by VanorDM View Post
So? At some point it doesn't matter because you won't notice any difference between 224 gear and 176 gear.
176 ? you mean more like green 70 gear.

If i put level 20 green gear on me on level 40 planet i'll have the same stats as with level 65 gear.
Useless.

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azudelphi
11.03.2015 , 02:29 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by -Spc View Post
176 ? you mean more like green 70 gear.

If i put level 20 green gear on me on level 40 planet i'll have the same stats as with level 65 gear.
Useless.
You definitely won't have the same crit rating, accuracy, or alacrity. You probably won't have the same power.
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IanArgent
11.03.2015 , 02:31 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by -Spc View Post
176 ? you mean more like green 70 gear.

If i put level 20 green gear on me on level 40 planet i'll have the same stats as with level 65 gear.
Useless.
Including accuracy, crit, and alacrity? I think not
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celldoom
11.03.2015 , 02:38 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by aristrokratie View Post
Many people have already complained about this new feature, even the ones that this feature was added for.

I am a PvPer. I am poor. I do not have a lot of credits. I do not have the patience to earn credits via the ah.
Until now, I used to farm my credits for augments and gear optimization by killing mobs. I used to go to corellia, farm a day and buy my stuff from the credits I earn there.

I cannot do this any longer now, I am forced to do sh** heroics, which are buggy and overfarmed for a ridicilous amount of time to even be able to optimize the equip of my two main chars.


Level sync is annoying, the ''story-guys'' do not like it, we PvPers do not like it and most PvEers as well dislike it (with a few eceptions of course)

Why can you not make LS optional so you can activate it if you are in the mood of redoing some quests on a 'difficult'' level

I would highly appreciate if you could just let the players decide wheter they want to spend time doing something or not. I HATE story, I HATE heroics, I quickly farm my credits for my gear and then stay on the fleet until next expac.

Please this is not that hard to do.
Speak for yourself. Level Sync is what brought me back to the game. I am able to actually complete planets without "wasting time", i can survive against pvp heroes while leveling, "the story-guys" (myself and my gf included) love it for the reason above, as PvPers love it because now it's a fair game to gank lowbies instead of oneshotting them for no reason and PvErs now don't feel bad for doing content below max-lvl "because its faster at max lvl". Level Sync was the main reason i came back and subbed. You can't oneshot things at lower levels (you still can with good gear xD ) so you whine about it. This should've been since launch and other MMOs should adobt this mechanic.

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Halinalle
11.03.2015 , 02:42 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by Gurluas View Post
Have to agree here, Level sync is usually a cool feature but it is also annoying, it makes your character feel weak, as you should have grown strong enough to easily defeat those old foes.
- No companion
- Some PvP gear
- I miss most of my proc windows especially set bonus one.

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