Why Macros belong in TOR.

Tartug and Daggamault are playing on my server - same lvl in the same guild. You need to come here bro :P

Well, when that day comes /unsub.

Then congratulations Wow players, you just began a journey of making a new version of WOW, a game which you're all coming from because it turned to crap.

I know George Carlin, and I know what he would say if he were alive today.

Yes I know who Goerg Zoeller is. And a lot of probablies and and possibles mean that it is likely not to be put in game. Ever.

Well this thread got me annoyed enough to actually make my first post...

First of all, macros are basically cheating, a VERY mild version of it but cheating non the less.
If macros are needed then the game is not designed properly!

My point of view is this, if some feature is "needed" then implement it in the game DO NOT implement macros.

Also the argument that others will use mouse macros anyways is stupid, thats like saying some people use aimbot in CS so everyone should have it to make it fair...

Because you're not good enough to remember what button you have to press in order to cast which spell. You just press the same button no matter what. For all intents and purposes, your CC is an Arcane Mage. That makes you a worse player.

Lol NightHawke. You are telling people that want macros they are bads because they just want things easier in game, and at the same time you have a 17 buttons mouse and a programmable keyboard with extra in-game function keys ?

Don't you see that just your hardware makes the game so much easier to play than to play with a 2 button mouse, a generic keyboard and in-game macro support would ever be ?

How can you with a straight face tell us we want just everything easy, when we just want to have some abilities more at hand, and at the same time you are using hardware that let you use those abilities with just your thumb ?

This is some sort of double standard, isn't it ? We are dumbs because we want to have better placed and at hand some abilities. You are not because you spent 400€ to have them at your thumb.

Hilarious if you ask me.

I personally cannot see myself playing endgame for long without macros and target of target.
I am not going to buy a expensive keyboard to do things that should already be in game.

People that do have programmable keyboards/mice are actually having fun looking at visuals instead of there bars, unlike me staring waiting for reactives to pop or cd's to end.
It is such a core mmo feature that I cant believe it wasn't hotfixed in.

To all the people that don't want macros: don't use them and let me play as I like

Haha, I love how every time someone posts they don't want macros and says why the OP has to respond with, "You clearly didn't read my post...etc." I read your post I don't want macros because it does make the game easier. Yes you are going to tell me that it adds significant complexity and all that other bull to make your point but no, it really doesn't. You wouldn't be arguing this hard for an addition to the game that makes life more difficult, it does make it easier. 2ndly you went on to talk about how hard it would be for healers and what not, honestly having not played a healer myself I couldn't tell you how hard it is but from observing the game since March running countless heroics and flashpoints as well as doing a large amount of PvP, healing is not difficult. I have rarely run across a point where we fail as a group because of insufficient healing. When I have it's because said healer is too low a lvl to compete. They are not needed, game is fine as it is. And yes I will argue their implementation because when they are implemented you are basically forced to use to them to compete.

Ugh, it's not about if I remember what key I bounded or not. As I stated - it's about convenience and a less cluttered UI.

THis logic is terrible. It isn't cheating if the IU allows it. In WoW, macros are allowed, with rules. One example of such a rule is that there cannot be delays in macros. Another is that moves the reset the GCD can't be coupled into a single key stroke. These rules are enforced, simply, by not allowing the functionality in the UI. It's hardly cheating to make full use of a UI.

The purpose of macros is to maximize quickslot space. There are so many abilities that keeping them all efficiently arrayed across the available quickslot space is difficult at best. It's not such a big issue in PvE where mobs remain stationary. In PvP, where targets are constantly running around, the lack of macros is a killer.

In all honesty, I love TOR so far. That being said, I will definitely return to WoW and cancel my TOR sub if macros aren't implemented. Since all 3 other members of my family play together, I can't afford to pay for both games. I am primarily a PvP player and, without macros in TOR, WoW becomes by far the more entertaining game.