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(KOTFE) Do you really have to do PvP to recruit a PvE companion?

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(KOTFE) Do you really have to do PvP to recruit a PvE companion?

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Jedi_riches
10.30.2015 , 08:08 AM | #201
I will admit I always like a choice in how to get or complete certain things like with Qyzen, there is a choice between group content (3 world bosses) and solo content (defeat 20 creatures) now obviously both will settle down after people have done KoTFE a while but at least you can choose how to accomplish the same goal.

I have never really been a fan of a choice that consists of do it or not, which is another reason I wanted a alternative option as to my mind that is not a "reasonable" option.

Given how vast this game is it will be almost impossible to please everyone, but different options "help" to please more people.
How PvP balance is achieved - Bioware please nerf paper its OP, scissors are fine as they are.
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Master-Nala
10.30.2015 , 08:12 AM | #202
Quote: Originally Posted by StarMagus View Post
I just got 4X last night. 18 games, 2 wins, took the weekly and the daily each day for added coms. Got a 208 Weapon out of the bargin as well that's better than what I had.

I didn't really fight, I just went to the object and "defended". Got about 5-6 medals a match, the 4 vs 4 were my favorites as they were super fast. I just ran up to the enemy hit an aoe or hard hitting ability to get 1 medal for doing 3000+ damage and then got killed. 30 seconds later another point out of the 20.

For all the complaints it's incredibly easy to do even if you don't do any pvp. Sure I had some people hating me on my teams.. but I don't care. I said at the start I was just there for 4X.
Good for you (no sarcasm)! Really, so long as you called incoming when you were defending, I would have no problem having you on my team. As for Arenas, in unranked they are too unbalanced to take seriously anyway.

Enjoy M1-4X!
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branmakmuffin
10.30.2015 , 08:25 AM | #203
Quote: Originally Posted by Raphael_diSanto View Post
Either way, like I said, I'm just gonna sit in 20 matches and just nudge the mouse every once in a while to stop from idling out. Free kills for someone.
This is exactly what I imagine some people will do and it is in no way surprising. Instead of encouraging people to actually PvP it will "force" them to simply log into a WZ and just put in the time, thus making the overall WZ experience worse for everyone. They have tried to make all kinds of changes to PvP to get people to do WZs (reduce prices, make WZ comms transferable, increase the comm cap to 200k), but if I wanted to PvP, I'd play a game which is actually PvP, not gear vs. gear.

For myself, I will simply never get Pierce or M1-4X via the story (which is no big deal since I don't really like either of them much and there are plenty of other companions to be had). But I fully understand your attitude.

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Master-Nala
10.30.2015 , 08:33 AM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
This is exactly what I imagine some people will do and it is in no way surprising. Instead of encouraging people to actually PvP it will "force" them to simply log into a WZ and just put in the time, thus making the overall WZ experience worse for everyone. They have tried to make all kinds of changes to PvP to get people to do WZs (reduce prices, make WZ comms transferable, increase the comm cap to 200k), but if I wanted to PvP, I'd play a game which is actually PvP, not gear vs. gear.
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That's PvE thinking. Where all the players are on one side, and the other side is a computer. So if you're in an Operation with someone who is screwing up, no players get anything but grief. But when you have players on the other side, that's one team that gets some warm fuzzies as they destroy people pouting in the corner!
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Tfranco
10.30.2015 , 08:50 AM | #205
Quote: Originally Posted by Kulyok View Post
Okay, I've been reading forum posts and Dulfy guides, and it's said that to recruit a certain companion, I'd have to do warzone matches? Play PvP? Otherwise I won't be able to recruit them? Seriously?

I'm not doing PvP, ever - I just don't want to hurt other people; doesn't work for me; I don't like it. I got legendary status, legacy level 50, 20k achievements, but no PvP. Never. Not going to.

But I do want another companion, another friend. It just doesn't make sense in my head. Why would they introduce such a strange requirement instead of a normal solo PvE quest?

For the record, I don't like recruiting Dr Lokin through Rakghoul event only, either. I've got eight(or rather eighteen) high-level characters who will need him as a companion: I can't wait for months for each of them - again, that just doesn't make sense.

I hope they'll change it in the later patches. As it stands, it just seems a really bad idea.

For the millionth time to the millionth thread about this, it's not a big deal. Go que for some WZs and get your companion. I don't like pve, yet I'm forced to do do pve for 90% of this game. Do you see me complaining?

For once they threw us papers a bone and made a companion rewarded through pvp (better than nothing), don't take it away from us. Side note, you gain affection for them through pvp as well, so I don't have to waste money of gifts.

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ThorgrimLutgen
10.30.2015 , 09:09 AM | #206
Quote: Originally Posted by Jedi_riches View Post
Yeah, I don't like PvP I play this game for PvE purposes only so by putting content behind a PvP wall I think is a really stupid decision.

The only thing I can think of is that the devs can't decide how to make PvP more appealing so they are going to try to "force" people into trying PvP to get companions in KoTFE.
Yeah, I don't like PVE, I play this game for PVP purposes only so by putting content behind a PVE wall, I think is a really stupid decision.

Also, you get your companion back if you are the correct class without any of the side issues like PVP, world bosses etc.

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branmakmuffin
10.30.2015 , 09:25 AM | #207
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
That's PvE thinking. Where all the players are on one side, and the other side is a computer. So if you're in an Operation with someone who is screwing up, no players get anything but grief. But when you have players on the other side, that's one team that gets some warm fuzzies as they destroy people pouting in the corner!
Having fun killing the characters of players who don't even want to be there or fight back (which admittedly is their choice). Talk about being a carebear. This is what many PvPers seem to be about: wins, not challenge. These are the PvPers who give real PvPers (i.e., those who like actual competition) a bad name.

Quote: Originally Posted by ThorgrimLutgen View Post
Yeah, I don't like PVE, I play this game for PVP purposes only so by putting content behind a PVE wall, I think is a really stupid decision.
It's a PvE, story-centered game. You play such a game for PvP? Does not compute.

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Master-Nala
10.30.2015 , 09:31 AM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Having fun killing the characters of players who don't even want to be there or fight back (which admittedly is their choice). Talk about being a carebear. This is what many PvPers seem to be about: wins, not challenge. These are the PvPers who give real PvPers (i.e., those who like actual competition) a bad name.
I don't mind being called a carebear. Carebears are nice. Are you saying it's a bad thing to be nice?

Likewise, I don't mind a challenge in PvP either. I also don't mind destroying petulant PvErs. I'm kinda easy that way!
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Billupsat
10.30.2015 , 09:36 AM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
Having fun killing the characters of players who don't even want to be there or fight back (which admittedly is their choice). Talk about being a carebear. This is what many PvPers seem to be about: wins, not challenge. These are the PvPers who give real PvPers (i.e., those who like actual competition) a bad name.


It's a PvE, story-centered game. You play such a game for PvP? Does not compute.
Yeah. Nothing ruins a good match more than one person yelling in ops chat about how much everyone sucks just because we aren't winning. Its not about winning, its about the competition, the struggle, and trying to work together as a team.

Admittedly, I'm not a PvP player, I'm far to argumentative and Schadendreudian to be able to handle those PvP'ers in a reasonable fashion, and its more enjoyable to not have to deal with that at all than take over ops chat with snide B**chery.

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JDiablos
10.30.2015 , 09:39 AM | #210
Why would anyone que for a warzone and then not do anything?

It's incredibly childish. Has all the makings of a small child pouting.

It's unbelievably selfish. As there are other real life people who rely on you to at least make the effort.

Throwing a temper tantrum and being a douche because you didn't get your way and now you have to do chores before you can play with your toys should be unacceptable behavior from anyone old enough to play this game.

Whether you think the companions should be gated behind PvP or if you think they should be given to you for logging in makes no difference to whether or not you should believe that behavior okay.