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Attention all players and Devs - 4.0 most complained about new feature. LEVEL SYNC

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Attention all players and Devs - 4.0 most complained about new feature. LEVEL SYNC

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AnneArchyst
10.27.2015 , 06:42 AM | #241
I completely agree

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Kiesu
10.27.2015 , 07:05 AM | #242
Quote: Originally Posted by Fox_Sunrider View Post
Yeah, making under 1000 creds soloing Hypermatter Tower when I used to make 2600-3100 per mob, no WB soloing, crystals harder to make and a waste of money now, and the feeling of being powerful just out the window. I don't care about grouping outside of an operation, I like to solo heroics personally, I like making creds. Now I feel useless when I play. I had no fun whatsoever. Call me a whiner or rager or whatever you TOR die hards or sheep want to call me, I've said my piece and I'm done
Sell comp gifts that drop, do heroics for alliance stuff, get money from them, even more gifts from boxes.. decor mounts you can sell... Making money is super easy I havent even been trying tbh, all I've been doing is increasing my alliance rep last week and I have GAINED millions upon millions of credits and not lost a single credit on anything. I think you need to get back to questing mate.
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AvalonBunny
10.27.2015 , 07:49 AM | #243
I've subbed and played since launch, seen every patch, loved and hated stuff in each patch. 4.0 has to be the best changes to the game ever. The level sync makes it so much easier to group with lower level guildies without having to worry about being accused of power leveling. The H2's planet side are great fun to solo or team up with a guildie. The H2's with KotFE are easy to solo both in solo mode and in H2.

I had my doubts about the level sync, but from what I've experienced during early access, I hope it stays.
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FranzJeger
10.27.2015 , 02:10 PM | #244
Quote: Originally Posted by AvalonBunny View Post
I've subbed and played since launch, seen every patch, loved and hated stuff in each patch. 4.0 has to be the best changes to the game ever. The level sync makes it so much easier to group with lower level guildies without having to worry about being accused of power leveling. The H2's planet side are great fun to solo or team up with a guildie. The H2's with KotFE are easy to solo both in solo mode and in H2.

I had my doubts about the level sync, but from what I've experienced during early access, I hope it stays.
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MikeRindos
10.28.2015 , 12:59 AM | #245
Quote: Originally Posted by FranzJeger View Post
Easy and for consoles gamers yes correct.
So true easy for consol gamers. But it doesn't really do any good. If you know what I mean. Might not speak for everyone here. But I've played the expansion. There's alots of down time. Like: If someone you know is weak at warzones. They stay away from it. If you don't like World Bosses. Because of the hours you take on it. then You stay away. I know this makes since. But its up to you guys.
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MikeRindos
10.28.2015 , 01:03 AM | #246
Quote: Originally Posted by nickihemingway View Post
I have my own thread on this two, and I agree fully.

Level 12 Baras final boss for story mode Sith warrior!!! Why bother when you companion can solo it. Level sync has completely f-ed up the end of story quests. Since most final battles for story mode are on early planets all the end quest are pretty much f-ed up.

Also I agree with several pp. I am by and large a solo player. I like my guild. Love them. I run ops and fps with them, not planet stuff. I have been a loyal subscriber for 3 years and this 1 patch has royally f-ed me over.

I love the no companion gear. I think the mastery is stupid, but hey I don't care too much. The new content is super after you figure out the new companion switch. The new crafting worked about pretty well after I stopped grumbling about buying new schematics. I even got used to my companions doing multiple role. Let me tell you Darth Mar as a healer looks super funny, but still all this positive is ruined by level sync.

I went from being a few levels over but independent on my toons to struggling but leveling at an even faster rate. I had a toon who was 51 starting Sec X and she was 56 less than two hours later just running each quest once for weekly and Sec X story mission. This does not fix leveling elitism. I understand the need in PVP zones for this feature but it ruins when you need to go back to a lower planet for a quest at a higher level (like companion quests, dread seed, final story quests, bounty week) etc.
What you said about this patch thing. It's the level syncing. Its screw everyone over. But to others its cool. Personal note: It f-ed me up too. I'm think of Star Wars my home. Its the same age me. Sorry to get personal with it. But when they do this. It upsets me.
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Treysa
10.28.2015 , 01:25 AM | #247
Quote: Originally Posted by Aeristash View Post
I believe the company stealth killing most of the anti-level synch threads sent the very clear message that this change is here to stay and any nay sayers beware. They may retweak the system to adjust balance every so often, but you're kidding yourself if you think it's ever going anywhere. Might as well conserve that energy and just learn to deal.
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Transcendent
10.28.2015 , 02:51 AM | #248
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalagante View Post
If they were honest with why they didn't like it than I could have empathy. The problem is most of these threads and I mean most not all are by the following.

1. People who hate the concept and will blame any game problem on level sync.
2. People have no idea how it works and make statement which are completely false about it.
3. People who claim two completely opposite thing are true. It makes me have to group and makes content too easy to beat.
4. Or the complete irrational person who just goes on and on about how it is ruining every thing .

I can tell from their post that one they went in thinking they would hate it so they hate it. Or they haven't even tried it. I truth is it barely has touched game play ability. If they didn't announce it put it in without have onscreen notification. If you didn't try to solo a world boss you wouldn't even notice it had happen.

If you are honest and say I don't like just because I don't like it. I can empathize with that. The solution isn't to rail against it because it isn't going anywhere. The solution is to point out the problem you think it is causing you. That way BW might address those but level sync isn't leaving and I am pretty sure it isn't going optional.
Inversely I've seen posts go the exact opposite.

1. People who love the concept and will go to any lengths to defend the game saying there is no problem with level sync.
2. People have no idea how it works and make statement which are completely false about it.
3. People who claim two completely opposite thing are true. It makes me have to group and makes content too easy to beat.
4. Or the complete irrational person who just goes on and on about how it is the answer to every thing .

It works both ways on the posts about level sync.

It's a polarising feature within the game, that disrupts different play styles of individual players as well as complimenting others. This is probably one of the defining reasons behind it being better as an optional system. I've seen lots of posts about why it also can't be optional - and not a single one of them has been well thought out enough as to why it can't be an optional system (more of the "memememe" type posts sadly). I've even gone through and suggested in a post about how BioWare could make this an optional system that caters to all the different play styles.

This is the main point though, an MMO should be casting the widest possible net to gain players, not throwing out the ones it doesn't want and wasting that chance to grow it's population, and by doing so it's potential income.

As a shareholder in EA when I see decisions like this, I hope EA as a publisher comes into BioWare at some stage and puts them on the right track, because then as a gamer and a shareholder it becomes a win / win situation. I can't imagine how much money was wasted on this sub par system.
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Skullncross
10.28.2015 , 07:25 AM | #249
Quote: Originally Posted by Nazmee View Post
Everything can be pretty much soloed with comps. Stop Moaning,
that's a lie ok pop to drummund kaas take out "The First"boss then come back saying you can solo it as you cant your companion gets feared and doesn't operate so that statement you said is invalid.

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Skullncross
10.28.2015 , 08:08 AM | #250
Quote: Originally Posted by MikeRindos View Post
I kinda agree with the flash points thing. But I do see where your coming from.
I play a tank and healer and as with sync have decided I cant be bothered using them for that role anymore.i might be rerolling all as dps as they are so over powered now take the other day I was on my gunslinger and my companion did all the work I targeted 4 lvl 60 mobs walked into kitchen to cheak on dinner and came back he was still alive and comp has slaughtered them all so my toon is obserlite now then I went to drumund kaas on my jug and took all buffs off btw I went from lvl 65 to 18 with the sync so anyway took all buffs off dismissed my companion then proceded to goto the mobs in shadow spawn and wow I was still over powered any chance of a level decrease again my recommendation would be level 15 for that planet and stats can be lowered abit more while your at it bioware as obviously who ever complained before asking for a nerf didn't do it properly now I'm here I can take over and give you the proper values seeing as I'm here as they didn't give you the correct ones I might as well jump on the band wagon as they say so sue me if they do.i know what take the comps away we don't rearlly need them anymore that way we will feel all powerful and thus make this game hardmode.as if they would listen to me don't worry it wont happen I'm only one and one doesn't sway a vote.