Attention all players and Devs - 4.0 most complained about new feature. LEVEL SYNC

So let me preface this by saying I didn't hate the idea of level syncing going in. FF14 is my main game, and they employ level syncing as well. Heck, there it could even be considered more restrictive because you can only use the abilities you have at the synced level. But see, here's the thing: it's voluntary. If you want to participate in zone-specific activities (like FATEs), you have to sync down to the appropriate level. But what if you're just there for a quick errand or needing to farm crafting materials? Sure, go ahead, go in at max level and lay waste to every goat in the zone.

When I visit Nar Shaddaa for Kaliyo's companion mission, I really don't care about the tiny bit of experience I might get from mobs that happen to get in my way between point A and point B. I'd prefer just to get there as expediently as possible without aggroing half or more of the mobs along the way.

I don't hate level sync. Like I said, I'm used to it from FF14, and I certainly don't feel like it's ruining my gaming experience. I just would like if it were optional, rather than mandatory.

ETA: And to all those who are telling people to, essentially, sit down and suck it up, or "don't like it, don't play", or what have you, please remember this is the Suggestions forum. Ie, the forum specifically meant as a repository for things players would like to see changed.

Dalagante
We can talk here over and over again.You like this im not.,i dont pay for thier servers 17 bilions alone i thought you can read with understanding... Play your belowed simplified brainless game now and enjoy nice graphic and story.And meake another 5 accounts.I thought i give you clear resons but you are resistant,dazzled or you're dumb im sorry.If you enter into dialogue with someone you should chill and TRY understand diffrent point of view.But this is hard if you are stubborn and arogant.

You dont need to explain me in details how my Role Play should look,i know what i like and i point this above.

If BW dont fix this ppls start leaving,what is SW TOR population now? After 3.0 is 500k subs?? plus the f2p/preferred.Evry player should be its weight in gold,because he is working on payment for BioWare....and for your belowed game be better or even exist,server numbers...shrinked or synced if you like.
You know why World of Warcraft hold strong after all this years?Because they listen players opinions and meake game like players whant.5.6 milion active accounts in 2015 campared to poor 500k speaks for itself.
I hope they meake lv sync optional or remove it for god,because i whant continue play this game.If they dont i just quit.

ps.Im not whining,im just writing my opinion abaut new fatures in public forum.Is not verbal scuffle.Understand?

Im finish here ,Thank you for your patience and i hope understanding

I have absolutely NO idea what this guy just said. Does anyone here understand gibberish?

Lol wut? Do you even speak English? You obviously don't know your American or International law either as Bioware can force you to do ANYTHING within the realm of their game as you AGREED TO THE LEGAL TERMS OF SERVICE BEFORE YOU DOWNLOADED/INSTALLED THE GAME! Secondly, removing the resist function is the best of both worlds. Come up with a logical argument supported by hard facts and statistical evidence that is in typed in modern, proper english and I might consider your point of view to be valid. Otherwise I see you as nothing BUT a failure to be ignored along with all the other crying infants on this thread.

Mindless? Ok excuse me for bringing logic and common sense into this but in this entire thread the only "mindless" arguments have been solely from the opposed side. I have yet to see one pro-sync argument in this thread that was not carefully thought out using evidence, logic, and solid reasoning (rather than emotion, which seems to be the only weapon of the opposed side) and presented in a format and language understandable to the majority of intelligent readers. If I'm coming across as condescending its because I'm soooooooo VERY fed up with all the temper tantrums and crying and whining going on in this thread. we could be having intelligent discussions about the pros and cons of lvl sync and coming to logical conclusions, but those opposed are acting like children who don't want to eat their vegetables. Here, let me work this discussion into that metaphor for you:

Pro-sync: Here, eat this, its good for you. I promise!
Anti-sync: NO! I DON'T WANNA!
Pro-sync: But why? Trust me I know it seems bad now but you need it to grow your skills and be challenged by content you once you ignored or abused.
Anti-sync: NO! I DON'T WANNA BE SYNCED!
Pro-sync: But why? I've given you all sorts of logical reasons why it could be a good thing.
Anti-sync: Cuz it tastes bad...n...stuff
Pro-sync: I know it tastes bad at first but if you eat it enough times you just get used to it and ignore the taste, and you get so much great stuff out of it! Trust me on this! Please?
Anti-sync: NO! NONONONONONONO I WON'T! i DON'T WANT IT!

Honestly I feel like I'd have an easier time getting my future kids (If I even decide to have any) to eat their veggies. I want to have a mature, logical, adult discussion about this (well, as adult as any discussion about a video game can be) but it seems like my opponents are level 20 to my level 65...without level-sync in play if you know what I mean. Fighting them isn't even worth the effort.

One final thought: eliminating the "old" companion system and the endorsement of the Levelsync application on planets by whoever it is that makes those decisions for SWTOR has eliminated the need for conscientious crafting and augmenting altogether, and I think undermining economy of the Galactic Market. It's no longer necessary to level at all. As one poster in this thread stated, this in effect is dumbing down of the game.

I have ten characters and most are above level 55...lots of time and effort and $ has been spent leveling them. Today is the first weekend day that I have not played this game for at least several hours...all due to the discontent created by the 4.0 patch changes. I loved this game and truly hope against hope that something will be done by the developers to "make things right". This would be the reinstatement of the original companion system and perhaps an "optional" Levelsyc.

I will be patient, for a time, but if things remain the same I am sure I will be moving on to a different MMORPG; in the meantime I will not be spending any more money on this game.

Disagreeing doesn't make a person stupid. You paid for access to the game they design. You didn't pay for the game. EA paid for the game through BW. This is a huge difference. I am sorry you don't understand the different.

Second I ask you to give reason why you don't like it. May be you need to realize the only reason you don't like it is because you decided you didn't like it before you even played it. It's you that can't seem to put together a complete thought or even give a reason besides I don't like it.

Again what is more brainless than going back and being able to 1 shot mobs 30 level below you. I would say it's you that wants the easy brainless way.


This is fine. That doesn't mean a majority or any many people don't like it. You are more than in your right to voice your opinion. I just called all the false claims you were making. Heck in my first post I didn't even give an opinion on it.

That is what they are trying to do they are targeting a more casual player. They are making the game easier to balance to open up for more expansion. I am sorry you can't see this but that is appears to be a pretty clear picture. They are relaunching the game as story focus and more casual mmo.

Yes WoW is so strong. Because they made a mindless game that anyone could play. Blizzard also has a pretty mindless base of customers who buy anything blizzard puts out. They have been losing customers pretty rapidly. That 5.6 million was after 1.5 million sub drop from the previous quarter. It also happen they haven't been that low in sub numbers in 9 years. I would say WoW is not the example to put up with a MMO going in the right direction. Besides there is a very large MMO player populations that doesn't like WoW at all.

I am sorry saying people are stupid and how horrible everything is going to be unless you get your way. You are right that isn't whining that's basically a toddler throwing a fit. Giving your opinion would be say hey I don't like it because x, y, and z with x, y, and z actually being true. Or just admitting I don't like it with actually no reason. Then I would suggest may be you go read Green Eggs and Ham by Dr Seuss. You might learn something. But each to their own i guess. I have a feeling you are quitting because I don't see them changing their positions. Good luck in whatever you do. I would ask for you stuff but I doubt you would give it to me.

So, you're... going to insult people who agree with you and people who disagree (and never mind the levels of maturity or coherence involved)? Or is there some kind of misunderstanding here?

Honestly GTN leveling gear market was gone when they went to 12 Basic Comms for class quest. I know On JC green items disappeared from the GTN. There was no demand so people stop selling them. This really can't destroy something that was already destroyed. That being said after playing MMO for nearly 20 year(well 18) it is very rarely that you should or need to buy gear off an auction house or vendor before max level.

I honestly don't think it's about giving experience for doing low level content. I think that was their way of trying to sell it. I think the point was more for future content development and to redesign of the heroics. I think people will fine there is way more content than is needed to get from 1-65 even if you just focus on story.

A fair point. If it is opening the door for future content that would be great. My comment about experience mostly came from the patch notes that specifically pointed out the experience you'll gain while synced down will still be appropriately scaled to whatever level you actually are; they seemed to be making an effort to turn that into a selling point for level sync. But, like you said, there's more than enough content to get you to max level already, so I don't think many people are that worried about getting "appropriate" experience when they're doing a side trip to Balmorra or Taris.