Why Macros belong in TOR.

I think you misinterpreted the type of macro that most of us are advocating for - I think that most of your ignorance has been alleviated at this point.

I am not dealing in generalizations, most of those I've seen posting in opposition to the implementation of macros have been citing examples of either Mods/Addons (which are an entirely separate entity altogether) or ridiculously complex castsequence macros, similar to those seen in Rift or other poorly developed games.

Statements like "all the competent WoW PvPers I know hate macros" illustrate the staggeringly lofty level of ignorance present here.

Dude, what?

So why do you need macros programed into the game when you can just get a gamepad and make youre own?

Trust me when I say there are some people who should not be allowed on web boards, or any public speaking of any kind.

But there have been some valid counter arguments to the Macro request.

Just don't lose your head. Who knows, maybe they will put it in game. I will still push against it, but I am a bit mature for the whole flame war thing. Not accusing you, but I am just sayin.

These people don't seem like casual players to me. For the most part, they seem like they have a solid idea about what they're doing.

And as for them not knowing what macros are, I assure you that most of us hardcore pvpers do indeed know what they are, how they function, and purpose they serve. Quite frankly, we just are completely opposed to them. They destroy combat, make gameplay lazy, and completely take skill out of the game.

They're an un-neccesary mod to a game that people have become attached to because they cannot play to save their lives. If all of the macros supporters in this thread are as good at pvp as they say, then why do you want them? If you're a solid player, you would have no need for macros. Do they make combat easier? Yes, but that is the bad part. They make combat lazy, care-bearish, and catering to the players that don't know a CC from a damage ability.

I fully support this. I use to be a healer, but lack of mouse-over macro killed it for me, as response time is critical for those awesome last second healing saves. Those were the best moments for me as a healer, throwing up a shield on someone with less than 100HP followed by a big heal or two. With lack of macro support (and horrible fps/lag issues) all of those saving moments in PvP have turned into moments of clumsy targeting followed by choppy graphics and by the time you think you have it figured out, you and the person you were trying to save are dead.
I want to heal again. Please support Mouse-over macros and focus macros!

So much hate in this thread, I don't see a problem with enabling macro usage. Add ons are really what some bad players used to play decently essentially since it told them what ability to cast IE *KILL SHOT* or *EXECUTE* flashing when off CD. Is there something wrong with me wanting to have a button that cloaks first then vanishes? If I'm smart enough to think "hey, these moves go almost hand in hand, they should be used together" I have the right to bind them as such.

Gotta agree with this post completely. I can see the gameplay turning into this lazy "gawd gotta log in again, I am so bored... must push macro 3).

Please demonstrate your sound grasp of macro mechanics by explaining the function of both focus and mouseover macros, and how they "destroy combat, make gameplay lazy, and eliminate skill from the game."

Actually this was proven to be entirely false when most of those "2000+" Arena ranked players moved to WAR and got beaten senseless.

Blizzard even said themselves the Arena was a big mistake and not something they would ever do in any other mmo title in the future, not forgetting that competitive ranking was a figure so easily manipulated by "deals" between teams that rating became a running joke.

That's even before I go on to talk about the fact that every top team always featured the current OP FOTM classes, if they were truly as skilled as they claimed, they woulda done it with a lesser known team setup.

There is a reason the Elo rating system is constantly critised in gaming, there are too many factors that play into it that you wouldn't find in what Elo was orginally designed for.....Chess!

At least Microsoft have the right idea by trying to work a new system using the basis of Elo into one that accounts for other factors, Trueskill > any other system based on the archaic use of Elo only.