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ajjw

12.28.2011 , 12:01 PM \| #311	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke If you think Blizzard is in control, you my friend, are the only one disillusioned about how things are. There was a time in the past where you could do things unintended by the devs through the macro system. Guess what? That functionality was removed. How are you suggesting Blizzard isn't in control? Because of bots? Those bots don't use macros.
Ex WoW Vet: Top 30 EU PvE Guild - Demonology Warlock - Multiple Top3 WoL HC Parses ~ Those against DPS Meters would rather settle with mediocrity than strive for excellence ~ These forum mods somehow manage to hand out more infractions than TeamLiquid. Jesus.

NightHawke

12.28.2011 , 12:01 PM \| #312	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn What is autorun? What is strathe? What are camera keys? Stop trying to argue with your lack of experience in gaming (which is extremely clear) and baseless nonsense you are claiming as hard fact. If a keypress can be bound to a macro, it can be used in such a form. And really, go read the DCUO forums about Macro glitching to bypass GCD on animations there is even a big thread by SoE on how they are trying to stop it. Sorry, but those are keybinds to "abilities"...
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Jurisnoctis

12.28.2011 , 12:01 PM \| #313	Quote
Guys, with your logic about bots and macros... Just following your train of thought here... I'm not thinking this is true... just trying to use your logic in the same way... I don't think asian IPs should be allowed to play SW:TOR because that drastically increases the possibility of bots and gold farmers. Oh man. You see what I did there? I was dumb. Guess what you guys sound like to someone who knows how to bot. One doesn't care if the game has macros or not. The programming the botter is running has macros, far superior, game breaking macros, than any game would allow. I can program my razer mouse (in less than 5 minutes) to do the following. Press 3 Wait 1.5 Press 4 Wait 1.5 Press 5 Wait 1.5 Wait 10.5 (15 seconds since 3) (I CAN EVEN PUT MORE ABILITIES IN HERE FOR A FULL ROTATION) Press 3 Wait 3.0 Press 5 Oh man, am I using Battering Assault and Rupture and that other move as a Marauder off CD? Yes I am. Are no macros in the game stopping me from cheating? No, they're not. Do I do this? No, because I have a big sense of honor and whatnot, and feel it's wrong. Will anyone be able to do this any more easily if macros were added? No. Can we stop nagging/complaining about things we don't know about? No. No we can't. And that makes me cry...

Badlander

12.28.2011 , 12:01 PM \| #314	Quote
No macros.....Period, this is not WOW!
VULKAR HIGHWAY PVP SERVER PANTHER - MARAUDER - ANNIHILATION SPEC

NightHawke

12.28.2011 , 12:02 PM \| #315	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ajjw There was a time in the past where you could do things unintended by the devs through the macro system. Guess what? That functionality was removed. How are you suggesting Blizzard isn't in control? Because of bots? Those bots don't use macros. Conduct your own research, hoss. I am telling you that not everything is at it appears to the general public.
Dark Legion's Empire Jung Ma Server Live by the Sword, Die from Bravado.

ajjw

12.28.2011 , 12:03 PM \| #316	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Xaphiero Macros are a cheat. There is no reason that someone who can write code should get an in-game advantage over those not so talented. Play the game for real. Right because something like /cast [target=focus] Fear is code. No. And macros implemented properly do not give an advantage per se. You can do everything a macro can, even just as fast bar chat macros.
Ex WoW Vet: Top 30 EU PvE Guild - Demonology Warlock - Multiple Top3 WoL HC Parses ~ Those against DPS Meters would rather settle with mediocrity than strive for excellence ~ These forum mods somehow manage to hand out more infractions than TeamLiquid. Jesus.

Zarthorn

12.28.2011 , 12:03 PM \| #317	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by ajjw Those macro systems were terrible and are not what is being asked for in this thread. Just blindly saying "macros can do this and this and this!!" and then referencing a system in which that was possible is just silly. Look to WoW where they got macros right , albeit after having to break some functionality. You see, the last part of that sentence is the key. "Albeit, after having to break some functionality". When a macro system is done CORRECTLY, you cannot do the things you talk about. WoW's macro system was silly as well tbh, I've never seen a game have a macro system that I would ever consider "well done" and they are all automating things in some form or another. And once again showing your lack of experience, back in Vanilla WoW there was the same thing that happened in DCUO, GCD bypassing via macros, Blizzard addressed it pretty quickly however at least.

Avaer

12.28.2011 , 12:03 PM \| #318	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Audenlol Macro's would be a welcomed change by the majority of the swtor community. As a maurader, to perform in an optimal lvl, I spend more time staring at my buttons waiting for them to light up than I do enjoying the scenery. Already at a disadvantage in PVP due to the class, last thing i need to do is do the care-bear stare at my bars waiting for an ability to come off the GCD (which is an eternity in pvp). Tho, If 1 bright shiny thing came from this thread was the amount of people I was able to put on ignore due to the fact they are straight up mis-informed/stupid. It is amazing for the amount of time MMO's have been around, people still have no idea what a macro is... You have to stare at your skill bars? Are you kidding me??? Any pvper worth his salt NEVER has to look at his bars. Just because YOU can't seem to learn your class does not mean they should dumb the game down more. Its things like this that ruins most combat systems in games. Either get better and adapt to the combat system or go back to WoW or Rift. I'm tired of games always getting destroyed by players that lack skill.
Proud Supporter of OPEN World PVP

ajjw

12.28.2011 , 12:04 PM \| #319	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by NightHawke Conduct your own research, hoss. I am telling you that not everything is at it appears to the general public. So basically you have no idea what you're talking about and cannot cite your evidence for the things you claim. GG.
Ex WoW Vet: Top 30 EU PvE Guild - Demonology Warlock - Multiple Top3 WoL HC Parses ~ Those against DPS Meters would rather settle with mediocrity than strive for excellence ~ These forum mods somehow manage to hand out more infractions than TeamLiquid. Jesus.

_compton_

12.28.2011 , 12:06 PM \| #320	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Yewcantcme Wow.... I finally found an MMO that ISN't catered the all of the keyboard turning, macro smashing, clicking pve carebears from WOW, and then I read this.... First off, there are no competitive pvpers from WOW. You can argue it all you want, but every single person I have EVER ran into in an MMO that came from WOW can't pvp for $h!t, plain and simple. Second off, Macros DESTROY games and their combat. They're only there for noobs who don't actually know how to play at all. Any good player, from any other MMO out there, would agree with that statement - Macros are only for noobs who can't play. They make combat in games nothing but button smashing, and completely take the skill out of any gameplay element. Thirdly, if you don't like not having macros, go back to WOW where you belong, and leave SWTOR the way it is. In closing, this is not a troll response, this is a serious response to this completely mindless thread. All I can say to you is 1). Don't roll on a pvp server because you clearly can't handle ACTUAL pvp, 2). Leave this damn game the way it is, and 3). WOW is that way ->. Anyone playing above 2000 MMR in WoW, either Arena or RBG would absolutely dominate the majority of the SWTOR PvPing population that I've seen. 2000 MMR, by the way, is mid-range. I'm not sure where you associated Macros with keyboard turning, but the opposite is the truth. If you're talking about MMO PvP, WoW is the ONLY place you'll find it played at the highest level currently. The game is hugely popular, established over many years, has a huge population and PvPing community - and the most extensively developed competitive PvP scene in the MMO market, by far. The game also supports Macros, which are considered absolutely vital to compete at higher levels. WoW arena was a part of the MLG circuit a couple of years ago. I'd like to see SWTOR PvP be similarly popular/competitive or even more so, which is why I'm advocating for macros.

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