People just don't play this game for long anymore. Time for a new star wars mmo?

What doom and gloom? Tons of people even more so than normal are coming back. Myself as well. The zones are packed, and people are playing getting ready.

The hype is in the air.

I am leaving at the point of my sub reaching 2 years. It is how long it took me to get into the game, build up, learn a lot of things and get to the point where I realize that no matter what I do I am simply struggling too much to be near average as a player, and a life of a an average player in a group content is not fun.

You wipe in PvE repeatedly, and you get farmed in PvP. And, you get a distinctive feeling that everyone would rather you not be there. And, BioWARE keeps adding on and on, making it more and more difficult to cope with the character control.

That is probably an odd ball reason for leaving, but well, it is what it is. I find the game too hard too master with too many goals at cross-purposes, and taking up far too much time without giving the satisfaction of accomplishment. I am tired of chasing the moving target.

I am sick when I think how many hours I invested in the efforts to 'get better' and how foolish I were to even think it was possible.

Dont worry, vast majority of people feel like you do. Traditonal MMOs will either adapt (well, making them not traditional any more) or became very small niche games or vanish completely. SWTOR made baby step to adapting.

[QUOTE=DarthDetonate;8500553] ...however I think Star Wars as an MMO will always conjurer memories of the TORtanic and because of that, no matter what, would be a bad investment and an uphill battle from a PR perspective. [QUOTE]

I thought we were supposed to still be bitter about SWG?

Sandbox Star Wars MMO on Frostbite 3.

Do it EA.

I have thought that too but we dont have many players here leveling new toons like crazy each week?, people posting they have 50+ toons and keep leveling more? Those are supposedlly still playing...

Not parsing constant 4k? Huh? He he, i feel your pain

I don't think it will be soon but as someone else alluded to EA owns the rights to Star Wars for the next 8 years. The movies will obviously be huge and the third one should be out before the 8 years is up. I would expect EA to at least pitch a new MMO to coincide or follow with movie 9 especially if the story arcs in the movies lead to a universe were there are many force users of both sides again. Depending on where JJ takes the universe we could get a "modern" era mmo again which would be awesome to me.

Well OP, I'm having the opposite experience. Over the last couple of months our guild membership was increased incredibly. Yes, it is the xpac, but more than that, it is because we are taking in many players that typically are single mode players and shown them the PvE end game experience. Many decided to venture out of their comfort zone and love it. It is great to see. And now, as we move into the xpac we have standing Ops teams ready to take on the endgame scaled to 65. And these are mostly returning players who had not taken part in end game before.

As for the rest, well, BW is putting a lot of money into this xpac. They cancelled other projects to make this happen. They responded to the player community that asked for more story and they are hard at work at getting end game back up to snuff once the episodic content systems are in place. If this is true and PvP is brought into the fold the games future is very bright indeed.

Certainly you are entitled to your opinion, but as I am on Harbinger as well, I think you should know that you may be missing something. I'm not sure what your guild is doing or how it engages its members, but it seems there must be other ways of doing it since my guild is exactly the opposite. I'm not sure when you logged in to Harb and DK, but as I leveled the last few alts I wanted to have to completed, all of the starter worlds had multiple instances. But taking it one step further, planets like Balmorra and Hoth, graveyards for lost toons, also had multiple instances. And, most importantly for me as I work late some times, grouping for late night Ops has been incredibly easy with Ops groups, pug Ops groups, running at 4am in the morning. Finding groups at hour to run GF content has been no problem at all.

So, I could not disagree with you more. But don't feel like you have to refute my points at all. Ultimately if you are not having fun, you shouldn't stay. If you need another MMO to meet that need, by all means. But this game is far from done and much like it has in the past, those who think this game is dead or dying will just have to keep waiting.

I've used SWTOR to my advantage during these two years. As a result, I have what I want - four beautiful 210k prestige strongholds, enough money to buy whatever I want, beautiful outfits and mounts, steady crafting income. The only thing I lack is a billion credits, because, well, I can never get over 100mil for over a week, I always start spending.

(yeah, I'm one of those people who enjoy the game for the story and the world - for the economy. GTN's the best MMO aspect, all right.)

As for group content, honestly, I usually do it once for the achievement/to take a look and then forget about it entirely, as it becomes a grind. I mean, "complete this FP 25 times on hard level"? Seriously? No, thanks, people, I'd rather play another Imperial Agent solo again, because I'm in love with the Keeper and Jadus and Watcher X and Vector's not so bad, too.

And the designers listen. Now I'll be able to play with my alts and choose whatever companions I like - and not suffer from the lack of a healer. I'll hear new commentary, cool interjections, I'll enjoy KOTFE with eight classes.

I've been here since late 2013, I think. Naturally, I spent time away playing DA:I, going to different countries and so on, but yeah, two steady years in the game and going strong.

I like it here.