The "I unsubscribed because of Level Sync" thread

Meh, not really a fan of the downscaling. I mean sure, the heroics and getting gear/xp for your actual level is great. It is. But I personally only go to low level planets if I'm helping my husband out. Or if I need 2 more womprats killed using a flame thrower while singing 'come all ye faithful'. I'd rather roflstomp my way through the 2 womprats I need.

It's GREAT if people want to play with lowbie friends as a lowbie of sorts, but again, myself, if I'm there to help my hubby, it's to one shot the mob and move on as fast as possible, leaving a trail of corpses with money/loots for him to pick up and sell.

I never EVER do anything with anyone other than flashpoints, warzones, GSF, and operations.

I don't group for heroics, or dailies, or regular planetary grouping, side quests, class leveling, story leveling, etc. These I do solo. If I couldn't do a heroic at 10, I came back at 20 and did it. If I couldn't do that Makeb heroic at 50, I came back at 60 to do it, mainly for the achievement because it didn't have anything of value at 50, 55 or 60, only achievement wise.

I'm not saying it's a BAD system, but I don't like being forced to do things. Sure, no one says I have to go to Tython or Korriban or Hutta as a downscaled 60, but the point is, if I want to go there for ***** and giggles, now my level 60-65 is downscaled to let's say 12 on Korriban. Well woopy do.

But as I haven't actually taken my fairly well geared toon to the newbie/lowbie planets with the downscaling yet, I don't know for sure if it's good or bad for sure. I just know, if it turns out I'm getting killed too easily or one shotted on something that even before the downscaling was easy to do, the the system will have failed. Only time I should be dying to ANYTHING is HM Flashpoints, SM Operations and HM Operations. Everything else should be a cake walk for me since I actually KNOW how to play.

Incorrect. Player will not be able to paly teh game as they have since reaching max level.

The rest of your post trying to supoport that misguided ideal I SNIP...

Sure you can. Thats what the terminal can do.

Use the terminal, get ported to a heroic and scaling happens for the appropriate reward.
Travel to the planet, choose to scale or not. You get the buff or debuff to scaling as needed. If you have it, you get the normal rewards for said quest or heroic mission at max level. Don't have it, you get the normal reward as you would have for the past 4+ years.

Scaling is very much possible and should have been done on day one of design.

Exactly. You're in a thread about unsubscribing. *** do you think people are saying? Some don't plan to go at all with this forced change.

Ahh you don't like someone else's reasons for playing so it must not be valid. Are you stupid or something?

Do you lose Hp's? Do you lose crit and surge? Do you lose power? Do you lose pretty much everything except the skill you acquired? Yes, you do. You will not be the same. You will not block and dodge as you did before. Nearly everything will be changed about that experience except skills.

What can't you see that or are you really just being obtuse at this point?

GW2 was built from the ground up with its version of level syncing in place, with the whole PvE experience organically designed with that system as an integral thread in the woven whole.

If you think they're just going to glue this onto a game that wasn't built with it in mind and has exactly 0 of any of the other existing systems built with it in mind, you might be the sort of person that'd think it totally awesome and not at all a catastrophe waiting to happen for a dumptruck bucket to be bolted onto the top of an airplane.

I mean, just think of the utility! Airplanes go fast, dumptrucks carry a lot in those huge buckets, WHAT COULD POSSIBLE GO WRONG?! It's so much win that everyone wins, amirite?

So, for me at least, I see this stated intention and I go 'Oh crap, they're aiming to bolt a dumptruck onto the airplane'. They might modify enough of the airplane to make this work; we can't know that yet until the thing goes live.

Its already far too late for any of this to change by release, in any event. We will absolutely be finding out how well they've modified this airplane to have the dumptruck bucket nobody, insofar as I'm aware, was asking for quite like this at all.

I know there was some demand for the ability to lower one's level and do stuff with lower level friends, but this goes several leaps past that idea, and we also can't know if there's any actually good reason for that other than 'Have faith in Lord Bioware, for Lord Bioware never screws anything up and is totally deserving of blind faith, honest'.

What they've made clear about it thus far, sure, it has some clear positives, and anyone being reasonable wouldn't have any difficulty conceding that. But its not a basket of ******s and roses; they're welding a dumptruck onto this airplane, and the potential for that to wind up being a nightmare is very real.

The ways they could get this wrong are uncountable. The extremity to which it could be terrible is of significance, because if you think any system in a collection of systems such as these games are exists in a vacuum, you live in a dreamworld and don't have valid opinions about anything.

You see those people asking rudimentary questions about how it might affect people on planets with the bonus series being of substantially higher level than the planet itself? Those questions need to be asked and successfully addressed, because ABSOLUTELY NOTHING PRE-EXISTING IN THIS ENTIRE GAME was made with level syncing in mind.

Nothing. Not one thing. The airplane was, at no point, engineered in even the most insignificant-seeming of its components to ever be hybridized with a dump truck.

You might be totally ok with Bioware making the executive decision that making this non-optional is best for the game and everybody. You might like all the obvious benefits that've now been confirmed upon and somewhat explained.

That's all well and fine.

But you don't see how there could be any problems at all though, do you?

Hmm.

Never go into engineering fields, I suppose. Your critical lack of imagination suggests to me that you'd need to find out the hard way about everything, including why putting a dump truck on your airplane might not actually be super.

I bet your post is framed on BW break room by now to remind them how they trashed your individual freedom (to read the EULA and your right to your cancel your subscription for no real reason at all).

This is great! America! America! Freedom! Freedom! FREEEEEEDOM!

How dare they FORCE you to MOVE in order to get levels! You should have FREEDOM to stand still and still advance!

I keep seeing all these people complaining about level sync, a system they have not yet even tried out for themselves yet, but I still haven't seen any REASONS why they don't like the change.

Until I read something different, my assumption is that they're mad they can't go gank lowbies anymore. (which, by the way, they'll still probably be able to do if they're 3-5 levels of stats above them anyway.)

my sub runs out 22th of october and i will resub 6 months after 22th of october just for one month and just for playing through story part...basically 2 month in a year for story sake only...although it was not my plan and i wanted to keep subscribing but other than story this game has nothing to offer except non sense level scaling with all grind fest of old stuff all over again.

Insults to flat out lies...
No you didn't. You've were here before it was announced...

It must be nice to be ignorant of how things work.

Keep it up Max. I couldn't agree more with you on this topic.

No, this isn't making content relevant again. This is making it possible for a person to farm the same quest over and over again without ever needing to try out any single other thing in order to get levels and gear appropriate to your level. You never have to leave the starter planets again! It's all just rinse and repeat. Like a robot. You said story matters? Not anymore, apparently. I used to redo old content just BECAUSE I could faceroll the mobs and then I could actually follow the story because it didn't take me forever to get from one point to the other.

I've played this entire game with over 20 characters (majority before the 12xp) - going back to low level planets and being able to solo content such as world bosses and heroics was the best thing ever because I felt rewarded for my efforts of playing all those months. I could come over and help my sister kill big bosses and she was always overjoyed and didn't care for the XP loss and it made her want to level because being a higher level meant being stronger! Now, I'm going to be punished for being a higher level by having all my hard work taken away from me?

I guess I'm not forced to go back to planets - unless someone asks me for help or I actually want achievments. But then I'll have to find 20 people to help me kill the Kaas world boss when I'm level 65. At level 65, Leveling just loses all charm. So you have 'relevant' gear (which will likely only be green and blue on planets anyway) so what, it won't help you - because you're getting gowngraded.

How can I RP that my character is having a picnic in the Alderaan forest with a friend if we keep getting attacked by mobs that are half our level and need to interrupt all RP activity in order to fight them? If we wish to RP getting attacked, we could still do that - but now we won't have a choice because our level will be taken away from us. This really makes most great RP areas completely unRPable now. I thought this was a MMORPG?

This isn't making content more fun or more new. It's just making it more frustrating to do for those of us who are actually in it for the story.

If I wanted to do content at a level it was meant for, I'd make a new toon, not bring back an old one.

It's not really a mystery as to why, people don't like options taken away.

In this case predominantly the option to go back and easily do achievements/solo world boses and whatnot. Irrespective of how one feels about that, it's a fact that something that's easy now is getting level appropriate hard in 4.0. That's why you have all the "what to do be4/2gready4 KOTFE guides with stuff "best done" now, cos people feel compelled to get it done before it gets harder.