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Raansu
09.26.2015 , 02:06 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Giliodor View Post
I don't like Corrupted Barrier because it heals me while
1) A small bubble is active. This bubble will be gone in a small amount of time.
2) Barrier is active, and that has a rather high cd. I don't like taking utilities that only affect skills with high cds.

I'd much rather take 30% damage reduction while stunned, because stuns are the real hazards as a sorc healer.
Most people are referring to ranked when talking about utilities. You can grab whatever for regs but in ranked you would be crazy not to take corrupted barrier.

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helpmewin
09.26.2015 , 02:53 AM | #52
Deception sins don't need dis burst buff except slighty maul DMG buff. This new change in 4.0 3 charges after phantom makes them pretty OP in open rotation with 5% discharge buff. I mained deception sin a long time. Deception is all about CC-s and open(see recklessness) - this is spec design. And this new change about how combat team is "competetive".

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Raansu
09.26.2015 , 03:07 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by helpmewin View Post
Deception sins don't need dis burst buff except slighty maul DMG buff. This new change in 4.0 3 charges after phantom makes them pretty OP in open rotation with 5% discharge buff. I mained deception sin a long time. Deception is all about CC-s and open(see recklessness) - this is spec design. And this new change about how combat team is "competetive".
You all act like they get a stack of recklessness as well. Discharge rarely hits for more than 8k and without reck it rarely hits above 4k. It won't be an issue.

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helpmewin
09.26.2015 , 03:14 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Raansu View Post
You all act like they get a stack of recklessness as well. Discharge rarely hits for more than 8k and without reck it rarely hits above 4k. It won't be an issue.
I've got 9-10K crits with 73% surge discharges idk about ur 8K "rarely" - mb u live in another world? With 2 relics proc sometimes about 11K.
Oh maybe u tell me about dummy? Lol, dummy...dummy max hits numbers is a way to go to balance, shure.
Atm this game is balanced on paper by dummy by theorycrafter, how do u think balance is fine?

P.S. Right now tested on dummy(many ppls like it to compare) with bolster , 25% crit(too much for solo) and 73% surge. Discharge - 9-10K, with relics 11K+, maul 9-10K, with relics 11K+, BL - 7-8K+ with second proc 50% 3-4K+. If sin will gear up right, not like me, all on power-surge for MAX open burst - numbers will be highter.

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xX-Archangel-Xx
09.26.2015 , 04:27 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by helpmewin View Post
I've got 9-10K crits with 73% surge discharges idk about ur 8K "rarely" - mb u live in another world? With 2 relics proc sometimes about 11K.
Oh maybe u tell me about dummy? Lol, dummy...dummy max hits numbers is a way to go to balance, shure.
Atm this game is balanced on paper by dummy by theorycrafter, how do u think balance is fine?

P.S. Right now tested on dummy(many ppls like it to compare) with bolster , 25% crit(too much for solo) and 73% surge. Discharge - 9-10K with relics 11K+, maul 9-10K+ with relics 11K+, BL - 7-8K+ with second proc 50% 3-4K+. If sin will gear up right, not like me, all on power-surge for MAX open burst - numbers will be highter.
these numbers only if u have pve gear on pve mobs, in pvp discharge 11k is not possible, rarely hiuts for 10k and very very rarely, usually 8k maul 9-10k, very rarely 11k and i have 77% surge
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Metthew
09.26.2015 , 04:28 AM | #56
Of course, if deception and lightning sorcs are the worst two burst specs, engineering sniper probably stands at the "redheaded stepchild beat up and thrown to a corner" level of burst.
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helpmewin
09.26.2015 , 04:31 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by xX-Archangel-Xx View Post
these numbers only if u have pve gear on pve mobs, in pvp discharge 11k is not possible, rarely hiuts for 10k and very very rarely, usually 8k maul 9-10k, very rarely 11k and i have 77% surge
Ofc if target use DCD-s. Or target can use wz adrenal.

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xX-Archangel-Xx
09.26.2015 , 04:37 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by helpmewin View Post
Ofc if target use DCD-s.
so without dec cds u hit someone with a 12k discharge full 174 ppl ? Im dying to see you doing it

BEsides what kind of def cd's is if i can hit you 11k maul during it ?
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helpmewin
09.26.2015 , 04:45 AM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by xX-Archangel-Xx View Post
so without dec cds u hit someone with a 12k discharge full 174 ppl ? Im dying to see you doing it

BEsides what kind of def cd's is if i can hit you 11k maul during it ?
I have this number what i've typed upper. In my opinion deception burst is pretty good even when i have dis numbers on fully PvP geared peoples on my guardian. http://imgur.com/po84tOT http://imgur.com/gEciAeg

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xX-Archangel-Xx
09.26.2015 , 04:52 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by helpmewin View Post
I have this number what i've typed upper. In my opinion deception burst is pretty good even when i have dis numbers on fully PvP geared peoples on my guardian. http://imgur.com/po84tOT http://imgur.com/gEciAeg
not sure what these pics means, we were talking about deception, not focus guardians .

And 14k u dud it with focu slice for sure, maul never hits 14k unless ur are bad geared, and in that case i've critted a guy 21k with cell burst on my vanguard
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