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Buying lvl 60's I dont agree with.

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Buying lvl 60's I dont agree with.

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ScarletBlaze
09.24.2015 , 10:22 AM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by JerokTalram View Post
You in no way need to learn your rotation with 12x class xp and a general xp boost. Man you don't even have to use interrupts for the most part as you are over-leveled before you leave the starting planet. I can guarantee you that most new players do not learn their class rotation until they are told they have to to continue raiding at level 60.
That may be true for some players but my boyfriend and I tend to follow our rotations and we do use our interrupts. We even dismiss our companions so we have to learn our rotation and skills so some players do use 12x leveling to learn rotations and to learn our class.
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cyrusramsey
09.24.2015 , 10:34 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
That may be true for some players but my boyfriend and I tend to follow our rotations and we do use our interrupts. We even dismiss our companions so we have to learn our rotation and skills so some players do use 12x leveling to learn rotations and to learn our class.
I believe this is beside the point that some people are trying to make. The fact that you do not need a rotation to get through the leveling experience means that there will be people who will not learn a rotation, for whatever reason, and anyone who does bother to learn it while leveling would most likely take the time to figure out their rotation before inflicting it onto others when creating an instant lvl60 too.

The fact that you do not need to learn to play to get to level cap does not mean that nobody will do so, but it means that the premise of this thread's topic is flawed. Instant 60s who will not learn how to play before grouping (in difficult content or otherwise) with others will not suddenly change that behavior if they have to start at level 1.

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Shwarzchild
09.24.2015 , 10:36 AM | #73
I'm loving the free 60, and the ability to buy a 60. Definitely getting another soundrel healer asap. It's a great thing for those of us who don't particularly love the leveling.

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Thoronmir
09.24.2015 , 10:54 AM | #74
I was genuinely misled by this thread's title. I inferred that the OP disagreed with the positions taken on various issues by level 60s who were bought. I expected a plea for everyone stop buying level 60s with whom the OP disagrees. My apparent error radically changes my response:

Don't buy one.

Harsh words, I know, but it had to be said. Everyone needs someone who can and will speak ugly truths, and I'm privileged to serve that role for the OP. So, I repeat, don't buy one. Just like, if you disagree with the McDonald's McRib sandwich, don't buy one. But please don't try to stop others from enjoying their McRibby goodness.
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Aeristash
09.24.2015 , 03:12 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
I was genuinely misled by this thread's title. I inferred that the OP disagreed with the positions taken on various issues by level 60s who were bought. I expected a plea for everyone stop buying level 60s with whom the OP disagrees. My apparent error radically changes my response:

Don't buy one.

Harsh words, I know, but it had to be said. Everyone needs someone who can and will speak ugly truths, and I'm privileged to serve that role for the OP. So, I repeat, don't buy one. Just like, if you disagree with the McDonald's McRib sandwich, don't buy one. But please don't try to stop others from enjoying their McRibby goodness.
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SaerethDL
09.24.2015 , 03:54 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
I was genuinely misled by this thread's title. I inferred that the OP disagreed with the positions taken on various issues by level 60s who were bought. I expected a plea for everyone stop buying level 60s with whom the OP disagrees. My apparent error radically changes my response:

Don't buy one.

Harsh words, I know, but it had to be said. Everyone needs someone who can and will speak ugly truths, and I'm privileged to serve that role for the OP. So, I repeat, don't buy one. Just like, if you disagree with the McDonald's McRib sandwich, don't buy one. But please don't try to stop others from enjoying their McRibby goodness.
Your analogy is lame, if anyone wants to buy a mcrib they can, because the outcome doesn't effect me, why would i care? But new people in particular buying a lvl 60, it's like buying a car when you don't even know how to drive one yet, you shouldn't do it.
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xilc
09.24.2015 , 03:58 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by SaerethDL View Post
As a subscriber, when you get Fallen Empire you will receive one free level 60 character. This character must be a new character, you cannot “boost” an existing character up to 60. Beyond that first one which is included free with KOTFE, you can purchase additional level 60 characters through the Cartel Market at any time.

I don't think people should just be able to buy lvl 60's, i think it should be something that is earned, and that I had to earn. People won't even know how to play their class properly, it's already bad enough with 12 x xp, you should see some of these people in FP's and Op's these days. I understand you are trying to make a quick buck.
WoW gave its players a free boost to max level upon release of the game. Honestly, it's perfectly fair. It's extremely selfish of you to make this thread because you're trying to decide the fate of everyone else who plays this game, which thankfully you don't get to do. Some people are in the military. Some have jobs where they are required to work 50+ hours a week, plus college, plus family, and then there is almost no time left over for fun.

As such, I don't feel that this is too entirely unfair. I believe this is actually more fair to them, so they can have a character that is boosted and get to play the end-game content with everyone else, rather than being forced to level from 1-60 in the time they hardly have.

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SaerethDL
09.24.2015 , 04:02 PM | #78
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WoW gave its players a free boost to max level upon release of the game. Honestly, it's perfectly fair. It's extremely selfish of you to make this thread because you're trying to decide the fate of everyone else who plays this game, which thankfully you don't get to do. Some people are in the military. Some have jobs where they are required to work 50+ hours a week, plus college, plus family, and then there is almost no time left over for fun.

As such, I don't feel that this is too entirely unfair. I believe this is actually more fair to them, so they can have a character that is boosted and get to play the end-game content with everyone else, rather than being forced to level from 1-60 in the time they hardly have.
I was in the army for 7 years, i had plently of time to play video games, I also went to college full time and had plenty of time then as well. If you don't have time then don't play, it doesnt mean you should get a quick and easy I win button that everyone else had to work for besides they won't even know how to play properly.
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Qui_Jon
09.24.2015 , 04:12 PM | #79
I don't really have an issue with the idea of a free level 60 but I think it should be an unlock based on having a level 60. For instance if I subscribe to the game a week before the expansion is released and only have a level 20 character I don't think I should be given a level 60 to then go through and skip completely all the previous content and play at level 60+.

What I really wish BW took the opportunity to do and I think is the biggest miss and fail of this expansion is to use the level 60 as a jumping off point for new classes. we have always heard how the game really can not support the inclusion of any new class because of the cost involved in going back to create a storyline for a new class for levels 1-50 with all the voice acting and such. IMO this expansion would have been the best moment to make a couple new classes of characters and have them be advance class characters. Starting the game with them at level 60 and playing the new expansion episodes as they are released.

But overall I think leave the class xp bonus for subscribers running indefinitely, and have a free level 60 awarded at the point you reach level 60 and then I guess if you want to sell them after that for the unlock on the account I don't care that is a cash grab which I guess it to be expected it is a business for BW afterall.

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xilc
09.24.2015 , 04:14 PM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by SaerethDL View Post
I was in the army for 7 years, i had plently of time to play video games, I also went to college full time and had plenty of time then as well. If you don't have time then don't play, it doesnt mean you should get a quick and easy I win button that everyone else had to work for besides they won't even know how to play properly.
Lol you're not worth arguing with