Level 50's are Killing pvp

I would just hate if it came down to this: a lvl 50 making a post about how its unfair to be using pvp gear. Or about them crafting their own super orange gear.

Which is what I fear this is heading towards.. brackets based on gear.

Been in an endless premade loop against a group of the same 4 50s tonight and I must say it's really *********** annoying it's 6-0 in Huttball all night for them at this point it's no longer fun to play PvP.

Because gear is already a land slide of difference. Trying to pretend it isn't is just being silly. Yes, I'm sorry, but TOR is a gear based game. You can stick your fingers in your ear and scream lalala till you turn blue, but it doesn't change the facts. And high levels, will always have better access to gear to people pre 30.

Anyone who thinks PvP is balanced right now doesnt play enough PvP - I am a lvl 25, lvl 25 valor (my valor maxes out every level) - It can be impossible to kill a 45-50 player if they actually know what they are doing and most lvl 50s that are in PvP know what they are doing. I couldnt sit here and spit the math at you I just know I am good at PvP, I get in the top 5 most of the time, but I HATE seeing 50s because heck in hutball sometimes they just walk the ball right in while we are all pounding away at them.... it just doesnt feel right when I attack them either...they live longer...hit harder....take way less damage and sometimes can heal themselves for 5K plus in one heal.....

Anyways I still have fun in PvP and will continue to do so...are brackets the answer? I dont know but something will eventually need to be done - I just hope bioware looks at the data and makes an informed decision - we think brackets are the answer but that could just create other issues

pvp warzones really sucks, they say it's balanced.

Why the hell it can be balanced level 10-50??? <30 can even dmg 50s but they can kill u in 2 sec thats to all your skills.

I got level 25 sith sorc and i cant even dmg 40+ but they can kill me in 2 sec even with my shield on.

they just resist resist resist and i make 100-200 dmg but they make 2000+ dmg in single shoot.

HP is not everything it has about their new skills that makes so f much dmg on u.

BIOWARE need re-think twice.

even Aions pvp is better.

Snipers.

In all fairness going up against a level 50 healer is pretty much pointless, even as an assassin with 3 interrupts the healer has to be dumb enough to let himself drop below 40ish percent. Without a school lockdown on healing spells, all the interrupt does is prevent the healer from casting that spell for like 5 seconds, but the interrupt has a cooldown of twice that.

Think about it like this, how useful would an interrupt be against a WoW priest if you kicked flash heal and he could still cast rejuv, greater heal, shield and all the other healing spells?

Granted they do and bioware has already given the bolster buff to lower levels.

What you are asking for now is exclusion of lvl 50s of which there are maybe 50-100 on each server from the pvp.

This would be fine if lvl 50s were doing nothing besides constantly pvping.
But they arent. Which means in the current state of affairs it would take lvl 50s about an hour to get into a warzone, a game of 10-15 mins and then another hour of waiting.

The current state of affairs cannot support a system of exclusion untill there are enough players to fill all your desired brackets.

Quit saying other people are ignorant just because we arent vocal about the huge impact gear and skills make. Yes they make a huge difference. Mostly because they take alot more time to get.

Should you feel bad about a lvl50 wiping the floor with your lvl 24 char? Hell no. Should you have even the slightest hope of besting him in a 1v1? No.

Dont misread those 2. I was getting grief no matter what level my char was. Simply because I walk away from every warzone with the most damage. Should I be proud? Fck no. Mostly because I know that my class and the way he is specced is pure dps.

A system that demands exclusion isnt a system that will improve the game this early on.

As for gear: Yes lvl 50 gear is around 30 times better than lvl 10 gear. Any arguments? Complaints?

Funny I thought someone would complain that lvl 50 gear is 30 times better than level 10 gear.... oh wait thats right. The complaints arent that the gear is better... but that they cant use it at level 10.


The only way to get everything you want is to play Counter-strike 1.6:
No cheap tricks, no ********, just skill.

It's their fault for rushing to the end. I am not going to feel sorry for people that rush to the end because they wanted to get their first or feel like conquering other people that have little chance against them. This is quite fine, you reap what you sew int he end, and you need to sleep in the bed you make. If you can't handle the fact you rushed and others might not be catching up, you have no one else to blame.



This is false. It takes practically no time or effort to get the gear in this game. Yes, you are ignorant, yes you are being ridiculous, and again, it's your fault for rushing to 50.

Actually, if your entire goal is to wipe the floor with low levels because you are 50, then that says to me you aren't really a PvPer, just a poser who will drop out once the actual skilled people catch up. Hence your desire to not have a 50 only bracket.

Again, this is not something hard to do, if you spec to DPS you will top that meter quite easily. My infiltration specced shadow did that regularly.

A system that doesn't give players a chance doesn't encourage them to keep playing and will cause the queues to get longer. Hence your statement is foolish.

Try again. It's much better than that. I'm sorry you want to face roll people who don't have a chance and trying to make whatever excuse you can to satisfy that urge.

Wow, a bold faced lie on top of posting the rest of your tripe.


Yes, because your entire point was made valid because you aren't even paying attention, just another faux PvPer who prefers to face roll people incapable of actually hurting you back.

Full PvP gear makes about 15% difference with full expertise, and with the RNG comm box system costing 800 wz comms per box, it will take alot of time to get a full suit.

So yes, gear matters (welcome to progression based gaming?), but not as much as some people think and you are IGNORANT if you think its easy to get.

I think in a month, this will be a huge non issue anyways as players catch up and the field evens out.