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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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Why Macros belong in TOR.

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CoreofexisteNz
12.28.2011 , 07:06 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Highfives View Post
I sometimes use the combination 2>R>X as an opener. How does you pressing one button to do that mean you are skilled?
How does pressing 3 mean you are skilled?

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bobaTBS
12.28.2011 , 07:06 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaid View Post
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Why should targeting people be hard? I've never watched any PVP in my life and went WOW HE IS SO GOOD AT TARGETING PEOPLE!
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Xolhardal
12.28.2011 , 07:07 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Highfives View Post
It's like you guys have been driving automatic all your life and now you have to drive manual you are like OMG wth is this gear stick thingy?!!

Tough break, adapt.
The only flaw I see in your statement is assuming many of these people are old enough to drive.

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Highfives
12.28.2011 , 07:08 AM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaid View Post
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Why should targeting people be hard? I've never watched any PVP in my life and went WOW HE IS SO GOOD AT TARGETING PEOPLE!

It's just.....silly. It's like in those FPS's where doing silly things like jumping and laying down midair before you land to make yourself a smaller target is called skill. It's not skill....it's gimmicky.
Please don't insult players who have far better reactions than you, that is pure skill in its rawest form.

Something you don't understand because you think macros should do it for you.
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CHRISGG
12.28.2011 , 07:08 AM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaid View Post
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Why should targeting people be hard? I've never watched any PVP in my life and went WOW HE IS SO GOOD AT TARGETING PEOPLE!

It's just.....silly. It's like in those FPS's where doing silly things like jumping and laying down midair before you land to make yourself a smaller target is called skill. It's not skill....it's gimmicky.
Targetting people shouldn't be hard. It's hard in this game only due to bugs. In a game like WoW (which is relevant because it's what this entire thread is about) targetting is seamless and easy. Players use focus macros because they're easier to use and do not require you to have any situational awareness.

If I want to interrupt someone in SW:TOR, I need to make a note of where they are and I need to watch their nameplate, target them mid spell, interupt, then swap my target back.

If I want to interrupt someone in SW:TOR, I need to look at the cast bar on my focus frame and press my interrupt key. I do not need to know where they are at all.

Also your example is garbage because things like bunny hopping do take a great amount of skill that average players can't achieve, but in no way are they remotely comparable to MMORPG targetting, lol.
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Xerks
12.28.2011 , 07:09 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Highfives View Post
I sometimes use the combination 2>R>X as an opener. How does you pressing one button to do that mean you are skilled?

Please stay on topic, nobody is asking for 1 button that does an entire opener, or damage rotation, or anything of that matter.

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Vlaid
12.28.2011 , 07:11 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Highfives View Post
Please don't insult players who have far better reactions than you, that is pure skill in its rawest form.

Something you don't understand because you think macros should do it for you.
What are you talking about?

I do fine. I am almost top in damage, somewhere in the mid on healing by off-healing with extra ammo, I cleanse debuffs from friendlies, cc dps off healers, and know how to use my knockback to seperate a back from each other.

I've been highly ranked in PVP across several games (not pro, but I'm better than your average Warzone player). I don't NEED macros to beat people.

Macros add another layer of skill that allows people to play at an even higher level by removing the targeting throttle and freeing up some keybinds.

It would be a glorious day if I could fit all my keybinds seeing as I use two different modifiers, a G16 keyboard and a mous with 6 extra buttons....and have no room for things such as consumables and a couple abilities I would like on my bar.

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Ekahab
12.28.2011 , 07:12 AM | #148
I do try and keep an open mind, but I recall watching macros ruin SWG pvp for years. I hear the statements that macros add skill, but from what i witnessed, it took the skill out of the game and let the game *game* itself for you.

I'll pass on macros, save the skill level in pvp and do it myself, thanks.
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CHRISGG
12.28.2011 , 07:14 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by Vlaid View Post
What are you talking about?

I do fine. I am almost top in damage, somewhere in the mid on healing by off-healing with extra ammo, I cleanse debuffs from friendlies, cc dps off healers, and know how to use my knockback to seperate a back from each other.

I've been highly ranked in PVP across several games (not pro, but I'm better than your average Warzone player). I don't NEED macros to beat people.

Macros add another layer of skill that allows people to play at an even higher level by removing the targeting throttle and freeing up some keybinds.

It would be a glorious day if I could fit all my keybinds seeing as I use two different modifiers, a G16 keyboard and a mous with 6 extra buttons....and have no room for things such as consumables and a couple abilities I would like on my bar.
Focus macros do not free up keybinds, they add keybinds. Focus macros do not allow you to play at a higher level of skill in any way, all they do is remove a big part of the game that requires skill. I would love to hear the actual argument for why they require more skill than the alternative, which CLEARLY requires more awareness and input from the player.
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Xerks
12.28.2011 , 07:17 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by Ekahab View Post
I do try and keep an open mind, but I recall watching macros ruin SWG pvp for years. I hear the statements that macros add skill, but from what i witnessed, it took the skill out of the game and let the game *game* itself for you.

I'll pass on macros, save the skill level in pvp and do it myself, thanks.
The type of macros asked for in this thread do nothing of the sort. I feel like a massive misunderstanding of what the OP is asking for is plaguing this thread.