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You think one hour of Story Content per month is too little?
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Knorlac
07.20.2015 , 09:21 AM | #271
I don't subcribe to either of the extreme positions presented here. I'm carefully optimistic about KotFE turning out to be better than SoR was in the departments that I care about the most, namely the storytelling and replayability, but I'm also under no illusion that this expack will be as large or groundbreaking as they'd like us to believe.

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OddballEasyEight
07.20.2015 , 09:26 AM | #272
You know what?

I'm just gonna bookmark this thread and then I'll come back here when the expansion is launched.

If I'm wrong, I will publicly aknowledge this in this thread.

If I'm right, I'm going to demand an apology from the people who have treated me with hostility, condescending tones and in some cases almost pure hatred.

Will you step up to the plate if BW holds up their end of the deal?

I doubt it.

But I'll be here either way.
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07.20.2015 , 09:30 AM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
I'm gonna be repeating that story content at least 20 times, so it's hardly "non repeatable".

Sure, if you only have one character, but that's semantics.

As far as I know, nobody has stated that there will be no FP's in this expansion. The only things we know for sure that won't be in are Ops and WZ's.

I don't play Ops, so it'd be hard for me to know the cinematic content of those, but a quick youtube search reveals the following:
Scum & Villany: 6 minutes
Shadow of Revan: 8 minutes
Explosive Conflict: 5 minutes

This is far from a comprehensive list, I know, but it's hard to find videos on youtube of just the cutscenes. Most videos include the boss fights as well (and one I found included some babbling with the youtubers guild about something completely unrelated in the middle) so it's hard to gauge the length of some of them.

But yes, this is a decent representation of the amount of "story" content included in the operations released.

Most flashpoints don't include much more story either.
Some, like Forged Alliances FP's and Black Talon/Esseless are longer, but most don't include more than 10 minutes at most.
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Jadescythe
07.20.2015 , 09:31 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
it's a youtube video with "star wars" in the title. there are fake trailers with more views than mass effect.
yes why develop content people will play repeatedly when you can spend money on cgi animation and create a single player quest that people will play a month and leave. that's bang for your buck alright!
By this logic, no marketing would ever happen. Why create a trailer for our movie when we could spend the money on better SFX or pay a big name actor in a minor role? Because the trailer will increase the chance that a viewer will want to see your movie as well as raise awareness that the movie will be released. If people don't know or don't care about your movie, then the additional money is wasted on improving your content.

Same applies here.

I do agree that there is a bit too much put into story in this case. In keeping with my previous analogy, solo story content is like making The Sixth Sense. It was really good the first time you see it when you have no idea what's coming and it's pretty good a second time to see the things you missed going through the first time. But any more times and it loses it's appeal as the majority of the enjoyment comes from seeing it for the first time.
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07.20.2015 , 09:32 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by OddballEasyEight View Post
You know what?

I'm just gonna bookmark this thread and then I'll come back here when the expansion is launched.

If I'm wrong, I will publicly aknowledge this in this thread.

If I'm right, I'm going to demand an apology from the people who have treated me with hostility, condescending tones and in some cases almost pure hatred.

Will you step up to the plate if BW holds up their end of the deal?

I doubt it.

But I'll be here either way.
Just to clarify: is you being "wrong" vs "BW holding up their end of the deal" going to measured on whether or not there is less than an hour of story content for a single play-through (which seems to be what the times listed in your OP and the recent lists for a few OPs were based on)?

Because I do think you're off-base if you compare the 20 minutes of a single Voss class story run to the 'promised' one hour of story in an upcoming chapter.
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07.20.2015 , 09:39 AM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by Methylium View Post
then go ahead, unsub and leave. no one will miss you.
this is the wrong attitude to have.

revenue keeps the game growing. no one wants to play a multiplayer game alone on empty servers.

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DawnAskham
07.20.2015 , 09:42 AM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
Just to clarify: is you being "wrong" vs "BW holding up their end of the deal" going to measured on whether or not there is less than an hour of story content for a single play-through (which seems to be what the times listed in your OP and the recent lists for a few OPs were based on)?

Because I do think you're off-base if you compare the 20 minutes of a single Voss class story run to the 'promised' one hour of story in an upcoming chapter.
Voss takes significantly longer than the 20 minutes of play time when factoring in travel and combat and watching all the cut scenes, and yet I doubt if you ask the developers how much story time is included on Voss, they would say 20 minutes.

So from what I've read of Oddball's comments, he believes there will be at least one hour of cut scene time per play-through per chapter.

I haven't seen anything to suggest that will be the case, and thus I'm willing to take the bet and come back after the expansion and say 'I told you so' when they fail to deliver one hour or more of cut scene time per chapter per play-through (or in the case they actually deliver that much, I'll be happy to say 'You were right').

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Joesixxpack
07.20.2015 , 09:46 AM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by Pagy View Post
...no one wants to play a multiplayer game alone on empty servers.
The problem with that point is that you're trying to make it to people who DO want to

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ChazDoit
07.20.2015 , 09:47 AM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
Just to clarify: is you being "wrong" vs "BW holding up their end of the deal" going to measured on whether or not there is less than an hour of story content for a single play-through (which seems to be what the times listed in your OP and the recent lists for a few OPs were based on)?

Because I do think you're off-base if you compare the 20 minutes of a single Voss class story run to the 'promised' one hour of story in an upcoming chapter.
I doubt there's minimum of 1 hour of story content (only dialogue/cutscenes without gameplay) per chapter, it would be neat, but I doubt it.

Maybe there is 1 hour of cutscenes/dialogue when put all the optional dialogues that have been recorded for the main character and the NPCs and somehow Lady Insanity misunderstood them.

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Pagy
07.20.2015 , 09:49 AM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by TheSeventhJedi View Post
Well, sure, complain all you want - but it's not going to do any good!
I mean, you're getting new ops. That much has been said. They're just not happening right at launch.
With their ops track record, do you really want them speeding up development on a brand new one?
I'm just not sure what complaining about having to wait for ops is supposed to achieve other than the fact that you like to complain.
the hope is that people see displeasure and bring them what they want.

in the context of "what does it achieve" well what does us posting here at all achieve? what does editing other people's posts achieve for you? makes you feel better or something?
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