Thanks to Bioware for a clear path for solo gear...

For people in groups, there is, wait for it, GROUP content
Also, why do you need to be in group with your BF constantly? Just break the group and do Revan at the same time. It is not like the player character is doing that much in the fight

I did not mean to sound as if I felt entitled to stuff as soon as I hit 60 and get it now, all I meant was I did not understand why suddenly for 190 gear you had to provide additional "payment" in addition to comms, it's just a case of moving goalposts for moving goalposts sake, I mean I played the game throughout I just don't get why Ziost gear should be any different to any other gear that is purchased with comms.

The rewards in this game for play are phenomenal. If you want to see horrible rewards download GW2 and have fun with the 16 thousand currencies and the porous bones.

I'm also very grateful for this! Thank you BW!

hehe I have been screaming this point since closed beta

This game has NO GRIND, never has

I have come to the conclussion that some player could be handed a max level character with max gear, 10000000000 cartel coins, and a live ewok to rub their feet while they played

and they would STILL moan and groan about grind because they actually had to double click on something once.

That extra click was just so exhausting and unneeded that they could only assume that SWTOR has a killer grind.

LOL

I appreciate the gear progression path as well Bioware.

Thank you.

Yeah, that does sound disproportional. I mean, over all my level 56++ alts I have like 2000 basic comms, 200 or 300 elite comms, some ults and only one ziost disc. And that doesn't make sense, given how 190 Ziost gear is basically the basic 60 gear. I think making 190 gear for comms-only would be more rational, especially since when the expansion hits, we'll probably have a vendor with "starter" gear for 60 anyway.

You get a nearly full set of 190 gear from the Ziost quests. All you have to buy if you want a full set are belt, bracers, earpiece and implants (and some other piece if you want to take the mod and enhancement out to put in your main hand), and that's assuming you did not get an earpiece and/or implants as drops. You get I believe 22 tokens from finishing all the quests on "living" Ziost, then a minimum of 9 more for the "dead" Ziost weekly.

If you don't easily earn enough Ziost "tokens" to buy stuff, you're doing something wrong (or you decided to spend 80 on the ice tromper mount).

If you want to see a grind, play Destiny. All gear is available from several vendors, ALL of which are reputation bound. 3 of which you have to first purchase an armor piece that allows all reputation gain to be forwarded to that faction. You have to first get to a rank 2 standing before you can even get gear. Each gear piece available is about 100-130 marks. You get about 3-5 marks for every FP run you do. Which aren't the quick 30-40 minute runs in this. Then you have to get to rank 3 for a weapon. And when Dark Below was released? They required you to purchase weapons/chest pieces and main armor pieces with a commendation in addition to the marks. Commendations only dropped 1 at each rep rank beyond 3 or as a random drop from the FP or a Crucible match.


The grind in this, is not bad. They throw comms at you, by 60 you have 1000 comms, a full set is ~1100 comms. Elite gear is easy as at 60... again they throw comms at you with group finder dailies. If you are a solo player and despise group play, you can easily make it with a 186-190 set that is augmented (which is more of a credit/crafting issue but at 60 you should have no problem with). 192 isn't even essential to clear Ravagers or ToS, should you decide to raid. Ziost gear is given free with the exception of a few pieces. The dailies to get the tokens to unlock these pieces are about 10-15 minutes with zero mob density. If that is annoying and too much work, then by the Force what are you doing...

I think it was more of the case I felt I was having to wasting my comms in a sense as I could not buy the best gear available for my toon. I mean for what its worth I would forgo the companion gear from Yavin and use the 190 stuff in gear I actually like if I did not need to get the Ziost tokens to do it.