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A bit harsh Bioware ? The one chair infraction.

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A bit harsh Bioware ? The one chair infraction.

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Luinthoron
07.01.2015 , 09:55 AM | #21
I do understand that this can seem harsh, but the problem is that even if this really is the case, no player can reasonably prove that selling even the one chair back happened accidentally without thinking of or knowing the consequences and that they were not thinking "Hey, let's try it with this chair and see what happens, maybe they won't care if it's just this one!".
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07.01.2015 , 09:57 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
Treating people equally 'is' being reasonable. All exploited, all deserve some consequences, even if it comes down to being flagged for previous exploiting.
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Scorpiova
07.01.2015 , 10:01 AM | #23
On one side, they did warn about it, it was very clear that ANY use of that exploit could result in getting banned. So it is hard to be sympathetic, when clearly Bioware are trying to crack down on the issues of exploiting.

On the other side, if what you did resulted in only 100 credits, really 100 credits in this game is NOTHING, completely laughable. So perhaps a less "harsh" warning may have been appropriate.

In my opinion the biggest problem with this game in terms of exploits if the market, the items there are extremely overpricesd. I know there are arguments for and against how it is used. But no item in this game should cost more than 5 million credits. If 100 credits is an exploit ... then action needs to be taken to regulate the market.

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Infernixx
07.01.2015 , 10:01 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by CmdrShpd View Post
No they don't, and by their own account they are not treating people equally. Somebody who sold 1 chair is not getting the same punishment as somebody who sold 10,000. And rightly so.
But, they 'are' being treated equally in that all are being punished. The punishment, however, is fitted to the severity of the transgression.

And that's both reasonable and fair.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
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Infernixx
07.01.2015 , 10:02 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand the meaning of the word "equally". Let me help you:
http://bfy.tw/bpG
All those that exploited are getting punished. The severity of the punishment is tailored to the severity of the transgression.

Could there be anything more fair and reasonable?
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
Quote: Originally Posted by CosmicKat View Post
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Rafaman
07.01.2015 , 10:05 AM | #26
I don't really know if it is harsh, too harsh, or just right. But I bet that the next time an exploit is found and spreading like wildfire, it will make a few players pause and a few more to turn away from the exploit altogether. That, works in my book.

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TUXs
07.01.2015 , 10:06 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
All those that exploited are getting punished. The severity of the punishment is tailored to the severity of the transgression.

Could there be anything more fair and reasonable?
OK, I guess I misread your previous comment to mean they should all be punished equally.
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azudelphi
07.01.2015 , 10:06 AM | #28
A warning is just that. It's a slap on the wrist telling you to be more careful next time there is a known exploit.

No action is being taken against you.
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Papazmurf
07.01.2015 , 10:08 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Infernixx View Post
People exploit ruthlessly, BW does nothing, people complain.

People exploit ruthlessly, BW does something, people complain.
While this is true, I'd personally much rather have people complaining about BW doing something then not doing nothing. This a marked improvement compared to previous exploits.
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TUXs
07.01.2015 , 10:09 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazmurf View Post
While this is true, I'd personally much rather have people complaining about BW doing something then not doing nothing. This a marked improvement compared to previous exploits.
This is a good point as well.
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