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Sick and Tired ..............

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Kantaso
06.30.2015 , 11:39 AM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Jadescythe View Post
Please re-read the OP before commenting. He simply does not enjoy the story anymore and that is an opinion. His solution was to offer the ability to queue up through GF denoting that you do not want the story portions of the FPs. In no way is he stating that players shouldn't be able to watch story in GF or that he constantly types SPACEBAR in every flashpoint he is in. It isn't selfish and it isn't harmful to other players, so I'm not sure where people are coming to that conclusion.

I think there are multiple players who would enjoy something like this and while I don't think it will be successful (due to queue times), it is certianly worth discussing.
But that option does not exist and the best solution is to ask if everybody has done it already and if the answer is yes if they wouldn't mind skipping that part.
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Papazmurf
06.30.2015 , 11:44 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Kantaso View Post
But that option does not exist and the best solution is to ask if everybody has done it already and if the answer is yes if they wouldn't mind skipping that part.
An even better solution is do the FP with friends for max efficiency and that way you don't leave things to chance. Judging by the OP's attitude though, I wouldn't be surprised if did not have many friends that wanted to run with him.
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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 11:46 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
You raise an interesting question. Suppose we had to select an option in Group Finder to either have the convos or skip them. Which group of players would see the quickest queues? I actually think it would be those who elect to skip the convos.
And of course no social points for a "convo free" option. But I have a hunch the type of player who would want a "convo free" option does not give a fig about social points.

But consider that some FPs have different paths depending on the dialog option that wins a convo. Which option should be the default? What if it's a DS/LS choice? Do we have to add "no convo LS" and "no convo DS" options to this "convo free run" scheme?

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Kantaso
06.30.2015 , 11:46 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Papazmurf View Post
An even better solution is do the FP with friends for max efficiency and that way you don't leave things to chance. Judging by the OP's attitude though, I wouldn't be surprised if did not have many friends that wanted to run with him.
Amen. Just group with friends or guild members and that solves your problem, maybe plan with your guild to have a night of running events and that night do the same thing 10-20 times.
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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 11:54 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
And of course no social points for a "convo free" option. But I have a hunch the type of player who would want a "convo free" option does not give a fig about social points.

But consider that some FPs have different paths depending on the dialog option that wins a convo. Which option should be the default? What if it's a DS/LS choice? Do we have to add "no convo LS" and "no convo DS" options to this "convo free run" scheme?
I agree that players like the OP aren't likely to treasure Social Points. It seems that the sole motivation for players like the OP is to complete the FP as quickly as possible ... for whatever reason. But I doubt that SP or LS/DS points are major factors for them. So, a no-convos option might mean they run the FP without any benefits of convos ... no SP, no LS/DS. Selecting the path for the FP to follow is a tougher question. I suppose, when in doubt, assume all Republic FPs go with the LS results and the Imperial get the DS results.

I'm just making a modest proposal for a way to get the OP what he wants ... speeding to the end of the FP without enjoying or acquiring any of the ancillary benefits of a FP.

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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 12:27 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
I agree that players like the OP aren't likely to treasure Social Points. It seems that the sole motivation for players like the OP is to complete the FP as quickly as possible ... for whatever reason. But I doubt that SP or LS/DS points are major factors for them. So, a no-convos option might mean they run the FP without any benefits of convos ... no SP, no LS/DS. Selecting the path for the FP to follow is a tougher question. I suppose, when in doubt, assume all Republic FPs go with the LS results and the Imperial get the DS results.

I'm just making a modest proposal for a way to get the OP what he wants ... speeding to the end of the FP without enjoying or acquiring any of the ancillary benefits of a FP.
But you follow up on my implication, namely that it's not as simple as "eliminate the convos" (because of alternative "paths"). Would a "Rep = LS" and "Imp = DS" by default automatically award LS/DS points? Or do we eliminate the points and just go the appropriate default "path?" The more we think about it, the more it's not nearly as simple as the OP probably thinks.

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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 12:34 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
But you follow up on my implication, namely that it's not as simple as "eliminate the convos" (because of alternative "paths").
Agreed, it's not that simple. Which is why I suggested a solution. Republic = LS; Empire = DS. For example, when a Pub group opts to skip all convos and run Esseles ...
Spoiler

And when an Imp group skips the convos and runs Black Talon ...
Spoiler

My point being that FP-speed-freaks like the OP don't care about the story, so it doesn't matter.

I don't care how they work out the details. I just want players like the OP to have their silly little check-box so I'm assured to never be grouped with them.

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Anaesha
06.30.2015 , 12:36 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
Agreed, it's not that simple. Which is why I suggested a solution. Republic = LS; Empire = DS. For example, when a Pub group opts to skip all convos and run Esseles ...
Spoiler

And when an Imp group skips the convos and runs Black Talon ...
Spoiler

My point being that FP-speed-freaks like the OP don't care about the story, so it doesn't matter.

I don't care how they work out the details. I just want players like the OP to have their silly little check-box so I'm assured to never be grouped with them.
Which wouldn't work because if you're a DS Pub or a LS Imp you are getting points you don't want.

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Thoronmir
06.30.2015 , 12:39 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by Anaesha View Post
Which wouldn't work because if you're a DS Pun or a LS Imp you are getting points you don't want.
You missed the part of our exchange when I suggested that there be no actual DS or LS rewards. But he raised the valid issue of how different DS and LS choices affect how the FP plays. So no, under this hypothetical solution to the OP's nonexistent problem, there would no impact on the character's actual LS/DS status.

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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 12:42 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Thoronmir View Post
You missed the part of our exchange when I suggested that there be no actual DS or LS rewards.
I thought of it first, suggestion ninja.

I think we can all agree nothing like the OP's "suggestion" is never going to happen.