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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 11:04 AM | #231
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
So, again, if SWG was doing so well, why did it shut down? Because Lucas didn't like the model, or simply hated Sony? If SWG was such an awesome game the masses were clamoring to play, why is TOR a theme park game? Sure, they could probably not have just wholly copied SWG to make TOR, but they could have in effect made SWG 2. But they didn't.

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ekwalizer
06.30.2015 , 11:06 AM | #232
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
Tdmaha doen't care what Raph has to say he hasn't done a thing in ages. He put out s few blogs to keep his name out there.
Fixed that for you.

Let's see, Lead Designer for Ultima Online
Creative Director for SWG
Chief Creative Officer, Everquest II
Chief Creatvie Officer for all of SOE
From 2006 until 2013 he worked as the founder and president of Metaplace (previously operating as Areae and acquired by social gaming company Playdom in 2010, which was in turn acquired by Disney) producing a Facebook game platform (because you know, NO ONE plays games on Facebook);

Your opinion does not outweigh his experience or insider knowledge of the gaming industry.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.

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ekwalizer
06.30.2015 , 11:09 AM | #233
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
So, again, if SWG was doing so well, why did it shut down? Because Lucas didn't like the model, or simply hated Sony? If SWG was such an awesome game the masses were clamoring to play, why is TOR a theme park game? Sure, they could probably not have just wholly copied SWG to make TOR, but they could have in effect made SWG 2. But they didn't.
Now you are just being silly. You asked for proof. It is neither my problem nor my concern that you refuse to accept what has been put in front of you; via the SOE President and the SOE Chief Creative Officer - but you go on believing that you magically know more than they do about a game that you never played. More importantly that you refuse to conduct any research on; you have formed an opinion based on pretty much .... your opinion.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.

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TUXs
06.30.2015 , 11:13 AM | #234
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
Nobody cares what Raph has to say he hasn't done a thing in ages. He put out s few blogs to keep his name out there.
I care and I'm somebody.
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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 11:14 AM | #235
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
Now you are just being silly. You asked for proof. It is neither my problem nor my concern that you refuse to accept what has been put in front of you; via the SOE President and the SOE Chief Creative Officer - but you go on believing that you magically know more than they do about a game that you never played.
And here is "proof" of how lousy the game was. By the same guy (who admits he never even played the NGE).

What I do know is that SWG is gone, TOR is here. You can complain about that all you want, but that's the way it is. Rose-colored glasses are a wonderful tool, though, aren't they?

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TUXs
06.30.2015 , 11:16 AM | #236
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
So, again, if SWG was doing so well, why did it shut down?
Because it was the right time and the right place for Smed to dump it. It was always going to be a cancer to SOE. By closing it, he's created false recollections of how great it was and now Bioware holds the title of "failed Star Wars MMO"...he was brilliant to close it when he did! He chose to. He could have renewed their contract, but he didn't even try to.
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Anaesha
06.30.2015 , 11:20 AM | #237
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Because it was the right time and the right place for Smed to dump it. It was always going to be a cancer to SOE. By closing it, he's created false recollections of how great it was and now Bioware holds the title of "failed Star Wars MMO"...he was brilliant to close it when he did! He chose to. He could have renewed their contract, but he didn't even try to.
Except SWTOR hasn't failed so long as it is still running.

SWTOR = hasn't Failed

SWG = Failed miserably

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tdmaha
06.30.2015 , 11:22 AM | #238
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
Fixed that for you.

Let's see, Lead Designer for Ultima Online
Creative Director for SWG
Chief Creative Officer, Everquest II
Chief Creatvie Officer for all of SOE
From 2006 until 2013 he worked as the founder and president of Metaplace (previously operating as Areae and acquired by social gaming company Playdom in 2010, which was in turn acquired by Disney) producing a Facebook game platform (because you know, NO ONE plays games on Facebook);

Your opinion does not outweigh his experience or insider knowledge of the gaming industry.
Oh I should have specified for you nobody cares what he says about mmorpg since he hasn't done anything on those in ages. I mean he was so good at mmos he is now working on...oh Facebook games.

I wasn't aware You are the leader of his fan club...

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tdmaha
06.30.2015 , 11:24 AM | #239
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
I care and I'm somebody.
Haha yes your are I guess...

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TUXs
06.30.2015 , 11:30 AM | #240
Quote: Originally Posted by Anaesha View Post
Except SWTOR hasn't failed so long as it is still running.

SWTOR = hasn't Failed

SWG = Failed miserably
I don't mean "failed" literally...both games were/are tremendous successes financially, even SWG.

I meant that SWTOR took over as the "hated" Star Wars MMO because it's actually running - players complain about games they're playing, not games they've played usually...and the further we get from the day SWG closed, the better that game is remembered.
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