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JamieKirby
06.30.2015 , 01:07 AM | #41
I think bioware should do a solo mode for all flashpoints and operations for the story, you obviously have diminished rewards to make group versions still a requirement for better gear and commendations, the solo modes have full story elements, while the group versions have the bare minimum, think of it like KDY, that only have a conversation that takes not even 3 minutes to do.

This is the perfect solution, cause i am honestly fed up with the childish, impatient and selfish morons that think they can tell you to skip something when you don't want to, this is why i think all group content should have no heavy story content, just a basic conversation to tell you why you are there and nothing more, while the solo modes has the full story and its fully solo-able, which is much more fun in my opinion.

An example could be, when you arrive on the Fleet at level 10 or something, you can queue up to do Black Talon or The Esseles, if there was a solo version, you can just do it on your own, all the bosses, that would be awesome, it wouldn't subtract from the group content at all, since its a do once per character.....but i am sure someone will just see solo-mode and not bother reading it and just say it would destroy grouping. lol

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imissleeches
06.30.2015 , 01:22 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by Bachannal View Post
So pay off your group mates to spacebar the cutscenes if an extra two minutes is going to send you into a rage.
OOOOOoooohhhhh! I love this I love this! Do you think we could actually turn spacebarring into a profitable business? It does seem like there is some niche market for it so perhaps everyone could find some middle ground in this. Let's say that at the beginning of the FP everyone states their going rate and business model and then anyone who wants to skip cutscenes pays the service providers (either up front or before each cutscene, depending on the business model) once terms of the contract have been negotiated.

Possible business models could be for example: "per spacebar" (X credits for each line of dialogue to be skipped), "per cutscene" (a bundle deal with a flat rate that may offer better or worse payoff depending on flashpoint) and "per flashpoint" (a "flashpoint long pass" that obligates the service provider to skip any and all cinematics in the current flashpoint).

Additionally guilds (or reputable puggers who queue often and provide essential roles such as tanking or healing, thereby facilitating regular queue pops) could even offer spacebar subscription plans! You pay a flat price up front every day/week/month/and so on, and can then ask that guild's members/individual contractor to skip any cutscenes for free as long as your subscription to them remains active.

This way, everyone can disassociate themselves from awkward social interactions because it would all be just business. If you're a person who wants to run quickly through flashpoints, you can pay credits to save time, and those of us who would otherwise watch the cutscenes will be compensated for the loss of story and Jakarro's whining. Everyone makes a sacrifice and everyone gets something for it, therefore everyone wins! <3
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06.30.2015 , 01:26 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by imissleeches View Post
OOOOOoooohhhhh! I love this I love this! Do you think we could actually turn spacebarring into a profitable business? It does seem like there is some niche market for it so perhaps everyone could find some middle ground in this. Let's say that at the beginning of the FP everyone states their going rate and business model and then anyone who wants to skip cutscenes pays the service providers (either up front or before each cutscene, depending on the business model) once terms of the contract have been negotiated.

Possible business models could be for example: "per spacebar" (X credits for each line of dialogue to be skipped), "per cutscene" (a bundle deal with a flat rate that may offer better or worse payoff depending on flashpoint) and "per flashpoint" (a "flashpoint long pass" that obligates the service provider to skip any and all cinematics in the current flashpoint).

Additionally guilds (or reputable puggers who queue often and provide essential roles such as tanking or healing, thereby facilitating regular queue pops) could even offer spacebar subscription plans! You pay a flat price up front every day/week/month/and so on, and can then ask that guild's members/individual contractor to skip any cutscenes for free as long as your subscription to them remains active.

This way, everyone can disassociate themselves from awkward social interactions because it would all be just business. If you're a person who wants to run quickly throughj flashpoints, you can pay credits to save time, and those of us who would otherwise watch the cutscenes will be compensated for the loss of story and Jakarro's whining. Everyone makes a sacrifice and everyone gets something for it, therefore everyone wins! <3
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06.30.2015 , 04:20 AM | #44
Am I the only one seeing sarcasm here....

Being a new player, or fresh to a new content, you often find players who would ask you to "spacebar" through it, which results in you missing out on story content. People only think about themselves.

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06.30.2015 , 04:29 AM | #45
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06.30.2015 , 04:37 AM | #46
Only yesterday I was in a group for Legacy of the Rakata who I honestly thought was going to explode.
There was one guy there who was obviously doing it for the first time, yet this guy was just going off on one.
"There is a single mode version if you want the story" was one of his moans - because as we know this is a single player game....
Even with all the cut-scenes it adds what, 2-3 minutes to the whole flashpoint, hardly a major worry.

I always spacebar through these days as I've done them all, but it certainly doesn't worry me if others don't.

On a side note, I find the constant "dodging mobs" frustrating personally. If by taking an actual path you can go around a group then great. But I've been in groups where people go out of their way, jump onto things, fall off, jump back on, go around again.
We're a group of 4 DPS, we could have taken the group down in half the time it took to go around them!
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Sidicous
06.30.2015 , 07:12 AM | #47
Tell ya what...You start paying for my subscriptions to games, THEN you can tell me how to play.

Dang socialists, commies, Social Justice Wimps, Paid Protesters....First you'll tell us to spacebar through the cutscenes, next you'll try to tell us what our skill rotations should be, and then comes telling us what we should need/greed. Give 'em an inch they'll take a lightyear!!

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kingshaneo
06.30.2015 , 07:19 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Nagas_Fury View Post
........I give up, it's simply stunning how many people comment on something they don't read. If you want to watch the story for the 800th time then so be it, I however do not wish to do that and it's why I'm asking for an option. It's in the post in case you never read it.

your option is to set up a run with like minded people.

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branmakmuffin
06.30.2015 , 08:03 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Stoofa View Post
On a side note, I find the constant "dodging mobs" frustrating personally. If by taking an actual path you can go around a group then great. But I've been in groups where people go out of their way, jump onto things, fall off, jump back on, go around again.
We're a group of 4 DPS, we could have taken the group down in half the time it took to go around them!
That's a gnarly one, too. And there are the thankfully relatively few people who get jacked about not skipping encounters, again as if the extra 20 seconds per encounter (even assuming it's not 4 DPS who can kill faster than they can avoid) is in any way meaningful. The only time it's a problem (and even then it's not really much of one) is when the "vets" all take the "shortcut" and the "noob" doesn't and aggros a bunch of critters he can't handle alone.

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Themanthatisi
06.30.2015 , 08:05 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Nagas_Fury View Post
Wow guess none you read the actual post! I want to play the game not watch a movie.
This game, you know The Old Republic, has stories..... I guess you missed the memo.

Join a guild and run with others that want to space bar everything. Rage posting on the forum, for a story driven mmo is not helping you.

How do you know that everyone has seen the story? maybe one of them it was a first or second time though. Fact is, you want to play a story driven mmo and do group content, it comes with the territory. My wife and I will space bar stuff after seeing it 2 or 3 times, but we also enjoy the quality of the cut scenes.

However, if your house caught fire and you were trying to complete it before you burned, I would completely understand why the need to be in a hurry would cause you to rage post.
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