Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

Are you new to gaming? Devs have the same credibility as politicians and used car salesmen. Yes, ALL devs.

To place blind faith in what they say is never a good idea.

You can put desperate bitter SWG Vets on that list...

The NGE was unique in MMO history and trying to compare changing the story and background of SWTOR to what the NGE did to SWG is like comparing an apple to a T-Rex.

The NGE was a change in the fundamental game play of SWG, something not done in an MMO before or since, and not simply a growth of the story of the game world.

For SWTOR to experience an "NGE moment" it would require a complete change in the base systems of the game with only two weeks notice AFTER selling everyone an expansion purchased without knowing that such a fundamental change to the game was going to happen immediately after that purchase...all the while completely ignoring the player base and the many issues within the game that had lingered.

We don't have that here. We are getting communication...good communication...and we are getting it at a measured pace that is typical in marketing practices. We are seeing a "correction" after the poor implementation of the SoR expansion (even if it seems that end game is being ignored completely at this point in time) and we are starting to see real effort being put into bug fixes and game mechanics (even if some of us feel its not enough effort).

Sadly, the NGE occurred because of a sequence of events that started in Beta testing of SWG. LucasArts didn't have any MMO experience but that didn't keep them from keeping a firm hand on the rudder that led to a Star Wars game that launched too early against the objections of the Beta testers who knew there wasn't enough game to go live. Entire skill trees were broken in multiple classes, armor didn't work properly, an entire crafting profession did...well, nothing...and we didn't even have vehicles let alone starships.

Content was what you made. Sure, there were a few places like the Imperial Retreat where you could run a few quests and meet the Emperor but mostly you had to make your own content. The game when launched had a horribly unfinished feel to it and it kept that "work in progress" feel through the Jump to Lightspeed expansion. It was only around Rage of the Wookiees that the game started to feel finished but of course the Trials of Obi-wan and the NGE were just around the corner...

A quick Google search on SWG and the NGE will give you a few articles and blogs written by some of the design leads and developers that give you a glimpse of the inner workings behind the NGE, but suffice it to say that the NGE will most likely remain a unique event in MMO history that no game company would ever want to repeat. It stands as an object lesson that I'm sure game developers take to heart when contemplating changes to their games.

They are changing some mechanics, we don't know how many or how drastically, that's why the NGE (potential) comparison is valid, no matter how many drama queens say it isn't.

KotFE isn't just adding story, it's changing mechanics to speed up or create more mobile combat (sound like any NGE's you know?) and it is also changing the companion mechanics to some degree.

Since they have not really elaborated on either of these fairly naive of many in this thread to just say they have nothing in common.

Blind faith is a powerful thing I guess.

They are changing some mechanics, we don't know how many or how drastically, that's why the NGE (potential) comparison is valid, no matter how many drama queens say it isn't.

KotFE isn't just adding story, it's changing mechanics to speed up or create more mobile combat (sound like any NGE's you know?) and it is also changing the companion mechanics to some degree.

Since they have not really elaborated on either of these fairly naive of many in this thread to just say they have nothing in common.

Blind faith is a powerful thing I guess.

There is changing mechanics and replacing mechanics. This game has changed mechanics a few times already but they haven't completely replaced them. The NGE was, for all intents and purposes, an entirely new game.

Go back and re-read what has been posted by the developers. Thinking KotFE is going to be the NGE is "sky is falling" thinking combined a bit with conspiracy theory thinking.

Can you quote where I said it IS going to be one?

I'm really trying not to question some people's intelligence in this thread, but it seems like about 95% of the replies didn't read anything but the title of the thread.

You make a thread with known troll-/flame bait as the title, and you wonder why the thread goes south.

Baiting trolls does not exist in these forums.