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My horrible free to play experience from over a year ago still affects me.

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My horrible free to play experience from over a year ago still affects me.

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Curbhunter
06.28.2015 , 07:07 AM | #21
I believe on the F2P that all FP and WZ should have no limit. OP's leave be. That would help with the wait times a tad.

Just my 2 credits worth

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Damask_Rose
06.28.2015 , 07:10 AM | #22
1. Most of the restrictions f2pers face are either the way the game was at launch, or set up to hamper gold sellers. The remaining restrictions are completely unneeded to play successfully to lvl 50.

2. If a f2per pays a whopping $5 they get bumped to preferred, which eases many of the restrictions. If they click a friend referral, they get several unlocks and a week of playing at a subscribed level.

3. When f2p was announced, it was not advertised as "play everything for free". It was advertised as "a la carte". Meaning, pay for what you want and ignore the rest.
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TheSeventhJedi
06.28.2015 , 07:43 AM | #23
What? A free to play game asks you for money in other regards? That doesn't happen ANYWHERE else! Why would a company trying to sell a product want my money?
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PenfoldStar
06.28.2015 , 07:51 AM | #24
The thing is the current f2p model is more restrictive and punitive than it needs to be. I do not advocate transforming it into a 'socialist utopia' or that there should be NO restrictions. But a loosening of restrictions and a minor tinkering (MINOR lowering of cash outlay) with CC prices could reasonably result in a better return for EA/Bioware vs the current setup.

If one is inclined, you can find sales of CC items on various Goldselling sites and there is the ever present issue of gold sellers. I believe select hypercrates are currently offered for $29.99... Why one would utilize this method is beyond me, but some strange people do, otherwise such option would not be offered.

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Neglience
06.28.2015 , 08:03 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by DPswfan View Post
I am now a sub to the game and am enjoying it for the most part. I think the 12 XP is great. I have to say though, even playing as a sub, I am still bothered by the fact that this games' free to play model is so bad. It should be called a trial mode. I believe it is somewhat deceitful to call it free to play. The blatant cash grabbing and such is too much in my opinion. My bad experience with free to play has made me skeptical about the Devs' future decision making.
You can easily play every class to level 50 for free. I don't see why this is bad?
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hooty
06.28.2015 , 08:15 AM | #26
SWTOR's F2P model is obviously a success. It's not like it just started, we are way down the road here. If it wasn't working they would change it. People come in a wide variety, and some will always see the model as "bad", but I don't see anyone making a compelling case for significant changes to the model.
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PenfoldStar
06.28.2015 , 09:53 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by hooty View Post
SWTOR's F2P model is obviously a success. It's not like it just started, we are way down the road here. If it wasn't working they would change it. People come in a wide variety, and some will always see the model as "bad", but I don't see anyone making a compelling case for significant changes to the model.
I do not (nor does the OP, I suspect) seek to suggest that the current model is not having the desired effect. What has been argued for is an amendment to the current model. The thing with the concept of "if ain't broke, don't fix it", is you fail to discover if alternate options may produce more desirable outcomes. The current model creates frustration and animosity, evident from some commentary here which portrays f2p players as freeloaders and unworthy of consideration. A viewpoint I would argue, is as pathetic as it is bigoted. But then I've never viewed treating my fellows with respect and dignity as an onerous burden, yes even those I passionately oppose. Hence why I argue against their apparent positions rather than seek to suggest that they possess those qualities, I ascribe to their arguments.

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Themanthatisi
06.28.2015 , 09:57 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Hebruixe View Post
I agree, it should be called Trial Mode. My experience of it was also very negative -- that's why I've only played with an active sub since then.
the F2P model has served its purpose....
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branmakmuffin
06.28.2015 , 10:10 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by DPswfan View Post
I believe it is somewhat deceitful to call it free to play.
Did you play? Was it free?

What's your point, exactly? Your horrible experience from playing this game under the inhuman burden of F2P restrictions obviously did not keep you from subscribing. On the off-chance you are not just trolling, the point of F2P is to get people to subscribe, not to give t hem an alternate route to play the full game.

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hooty
06.28.2015 , 10:21 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by PenfoldStar View Post
I do not (nor does the OP, I suspect) seek to suggest that the current model is not having the desired effect. What has been argued for is an amendment to the current model. The thing with the concept of "if ain't broke, don't fix it", is you fail to discover if alternate options may produce more desirable outcomes. The current model creates frustration and animosity, evident from some commentary here which portrays f2p players as freeloaders and unworthy of consideration. A viewpoint I would argue, is as pathetic as it is bigoted. But then I've never viewed treating my fellows with respect and dignity as an onerous burden, yes even those I passionately oppose. Hence why I argue against their apparent positions rather than seek to suggest that they possess those qualities, I ascribe to their arguments.
The thing with tinkering is you can just as easily make things worse instead of better. And the tinkering isn't free. Unless there is a compelling reason to change something (like the current model is not meeting BW's expectations), why spend resources on it? To achieve some impossible nirvana where nobody complains, yet BW still somehow magically makes money?
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