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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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Pompeia
06.26.2015 , 09:21 AM | #91
I understand the OP concern. I too was forced out of SWG by the NGE and the fact that so much is planned to change now scares me. On one hand I continue to love the games Bioware makes, wich bodes well, on another the movie showing yet another destroyed scenario scares me, has does the focus on a more action based combat system wich was what lead swg to its disaster. I am a little reassured by MMORPG words that it looks more cinematic, more like what we could see on a movie. Thats what imersses me, and why the spin kick was so cool.

I enjoy living vibrant worlds and nice combat animations like ravage, or the spin kick you stole from my marauder and is now an exclusive interrupt from jedi warrior. I enjoyed this game combat system more has it was in the begining, and i dont like it half has much now, even with the dual blades throw. Things like the removal of my agent explosive probe and orbitral strike have made him retire, and can make or break the game.

Also, the vibrant world, last thing I want to see is the current planets in the same state Ziost is post spoiler. Wich is a pitty, I understand why there was a post spoiler but I actualy enjoyed that planet before it.

Also, I have heard the: It Will have a Remarkable story before. It does indeed, makeb had one nice to do 3 times at most, one light, one dark, one republic was my limit - forged alliances was nice but only with very minor diference between republic/empire, so worth 2 runs at most, and I havent experienced republic Ziost yet since my sentinel lacks 1 level - so on this i dont know.

I do know I LOVE the Class Quests. The mere thought that they may cut some of those quests short to enhance the all experience is just not acceptable. If they dont want to do more class quests, at least dont cut on what is done. And dont steal my companions, you may temporarily make them go away, but I want to be abble to get them back, save for some I would have killed if i had the chance. And i dont want to be forced to grind ilimited dailies to do so.
I hate repeating stuff that doesnt even have nuances.

Yes Im worried too, so my hype is = has worry untill told I can relax and that anything is going to be all right.

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tdmaha
06.26.2015 , 09:27 AM | #92
So I could be wrong here but some of these SWG/NGE guys remind me of stories you hear about some dude who gets dumped by his GF/BF. He becomes is so devastated and can't move on with his life for years ends up in jail or rehab because of it...

Anyone else get that impression from these SWG/NGE guys?

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branmakmuffin
06.26.2015 , 09:27 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Pompeia View Post
Yes Im worried too, so my hype is = has worry untill told I can relax that anything is going to be all right.
If you truly get "worried" about what happens in a computer game, you probably should not be playing it.

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Malastare
06.26.2015 , 09:35 AM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Pompeia View Post
I understand the OP concern. I too was forced out of SWG by the NGE and the fact that so much is planned to change now scares me.
Like what?

From what we've heard, nothing from Level 1 to 60 is changing. They're not reworking combat or revamping crafting or making drastic changes to the advanced classes. They're just adding a new block of story quests.

That's what makes this SWG/NGE whining so worthless. There's no information at all to support it, just a bunch of former-SWG players desperately hoping that this game will be hurt by an NGE-like change so that they can soothe their decade-long anguish with the annoyance of others. And with every release, they hope that will come... and it doesn't.

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Azut
06.26.2015 , 09:38 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by branmakmuffin View Post
If you truly get "worried" about what happens in a computer game, you probably should not be playing it.
Don't mind the SWG trolls they'll never stop.
Way too many alts for the signature to handle!

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Sarfux
06.26.2015 , 09:39 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by LoverNoFighter View Post
It won't be remembered at all.
SWTOR has had more players in a couple months than SWG did in 5 years. SWTOR made more money in a month than SWG made in 5 years. Those are facts. Let go. This isn't healthy. Deal with it. I'm a diehard Star Wars fan and I can understand the SWG love, but just let it go. SWTOR is the better game.

And no, no need to point out I'm being subjective with me saying swtor is the better game and trying to start an argument that way. No duh sherlock. Of course I'm being subjective because I'm saying it.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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branmakmuffin
06.26.2015 , 09:40 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by Pompeia View Post
I understand the OP concern. I too was forced out of SWG by the NGE
"Forced out." Gotta love it. I bet it's not a pun.

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Sarfux
06.26.2015 , 09:40 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Azut View Post
Don't mind the SWG trolls they'll never stop.
If this game in 3 years made another expansion that added tons of sandbox features, gave us 5 non combat classes, introduced farming and stuff like that. They would still complain. Some people just LOVE living in the past and complaining about what's NOT here instead of enjoying what IS here. It's a real problem with some people.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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Malastare
06.26.2015 , 09:42 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by tdmaha View Post
So I could be wrong here but some of these SWG/NGE guys remind me of stories you hear about some dude who gets dumped by his GF/BF. He becomes is so devastated and can't move on with his life for years ends up in jail or rehab because of it...
Pretty much.

It seems to be a case where a tiny fraction of the fanbase got so attached to the game that they considered themselves to be worthy of being involved in development decisions. Then, when a decision was made that they didn't like (regardless of how necessary it was, or how it might have played into bigger plans by the developer), they take it as a personal betrayal. Now, they refuse to let go, because admitting that it wasn't a betrayal would mean that they'd have to admit that it was just a game that was struggling to stay alive and their part in that was ultimately inconsequential.

So, like a bitter ex, they continue on, complaining about that one time they got hurt, and actively sabotaging themselves and others, by insisting that the inevitable betrayal is just around the bend, and that they should lash out and strike first before that happens.

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Pompeia
06.26.2015 , 09:46 AM | #100
You underestimate the nerd level of some of us SW and MMO player fans i guess

Based on the reports of those from press that were on the E3 and from the expansion page itself.

"With the launch of Knights of the Fallen Empire, all of the original eight Class stories will be enhanced"

And also from MMORPG
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...e-Preview.html

"BioWare knows that a lot of their players like SWTOR because it’s a continuation of Knights of the Old Republic as much as it is an MMO. So for Knights of the Fallen Empire they are focusing really hard on upping their cut-scene and story-telling game. Cameras move during story scenes, animations and overall direction are far more diverse than in the other story-focused contents and expansions. Watching the player, now known as The Outlander, escape from the carbonite prison with the help of Lana and Koth was an absolutely riveting experience.

Gameplay wise, BioWare promises lots more info to come on all the new class skills, but the main goal of the new powers is to increase the mobility and action of each class as they want the pace of combat to increase overall with KotFE. Watching the Skytroopers fly around, come in through windows, and make combat more movement heavy gave a good impression that we’ll be doing a lot more moving during fights in the expansion".

Combat will change.