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Razdek
06.22.2015 , 03:45 PM | #71
I don't really have many issues with this game to be honost.... Years ago, yes, but now its pretty smooth. I get the occassional lag, but thats cause i'm in Aus. Bioware have adapted the engine far beyond what it used to be. Its not perfect but replacing the engine is a waste of time and money. They would probably just shut the game down and start a new project as that would probably be cheaper. I would much rather more content over no content thanks.

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Sarfux
06.22.2015 , 03:46 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Razdek View Post
I don't really have many issues with this game to be honost.... Years ago, yes, but now its pretty smooth. I get the occassional lag, but thats cause i'm in Aus. Bioware have adapted the engine far beyond what it used to be. Its not perfect but replacing the engine is a waste of time and money. They would probably just shut the game down and start a new project as that would probably be cheaper. I would much rather more content over no content thanks.
You just said it right there. Upgrading it would be a waste of time and money. I think people exaggerate their issues.
Always be who you are, not what the galaxy wants you to be

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aaronbeale
06.22.2015 , 03:53 PM | #73
Id just like to say:
Yes we know the engine is older and outdated, yet we still play
(And also bad form on the engine developers part not to support their own engine)
Yes we know PVP & FP que times take a while to pop, yet we still que and wait
(with coming changes hopefully this will improve PVP dramatically)
Yes the the game could have some major improvements, yet we still log in each day

The engine wont change till SWTOR 2 (if/when that happens) so can we please just let this topic rest, Im sure so many others like me are sick of seeing comments and aggro about something THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. Focus your comments, ideas and energy into something more productive than bagging something that cant change yet you play everyday.

If you dont like it uninstall & MOVE ON!! its a bloody game.

rant over...

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Romeugues
06.22.2015 , 03:54 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarfux View Post
You just said it right there. Upgrading it would be a waste of time and money. I think people exaggerate their issues.
Yes, 15 FPS in 8x8 warzones is a complete exaggeration, would you like a screenshot

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typenine
06.22.2015 , 04:11 PM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by Romeugues View Post
Yes, 15 FPS in 8x8 warzones is a complete exaggeration, would you like a screenshot
You realize it's probably your computer not the game right?

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MeNaCe-NZ
06.22.2015 , 06:20 PM | #76
People just need to stop buying AMD cpu's until Zen hits and they wouldn't have half the problems they have now.

It's like people just buy whatever hardware they can afford, do no research on it, and complain when things don't go right or they can't crank the graphics up.

Sure you can take that attitude with a console as games can be designed around one certain spec but that's not the case with PC games.

You see these performance threads in every single PC game, people whinging about them being poorly unoptimized etc. and while sometimes it's the case often it's the end user at fault for not knowing what they are buying or doing in regards to their PC.

Whilst I agree this game has engine limitations and issues I don't think it's as bad as many people make out and with a little education into what they are doing and thought/research put in before they buy then they wouldn't experience nearly as many issues.

In saying all that, these supposed self titled "PC Experts" that sell people pre-built PC's or even offer up unsubstantiated advice have a lot to answer for.

Buyer beware.

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Romeugues
06.22.2015 , 08:02 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by typenine View Post
You realize it's probably your computer not the game right?
Yes, my computer's CPU which sits at 50% or less load during SWTOR right? If the game used a modern game engine that was better threaded (and DX11, with a DX10 path for those with older GPUs) my CPU would actually be fully utilized and performance would more than double, from utilizing quad core CPUs along with lower cpu overhead.
But I suppose 4 ghz quadcore CPUs are bit low end, to be expected, I mean I can't play other games like TH3 at 1440P with almost everything on high, why should I expect a game with worse graphics that was released years ago to perform better

Btw AMD cpus obviously are bad for gaming but in most cases it's only a factor(as in when you don't run at super low res to isolate the cpu) when you have SLI or crossfired GPU configs, in which case cheaping out on a CPU is very unwise.
I'm not sure why there are those in the SWTOR community resistant to the idea of having a better performing, better looking game, it's against your own interest

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Rafaman
06.22.2015 , 08:33 PM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
Agreed!

Recruit unpaid interns to work 20+ hours per day - tell them it'll look good on their resume - and have them start copy and pasting the code over. It's THAT simple!!!
I have some time on my hands. Let me take a crack at it! I'm really good with notepad and have great right clicking skills.. Give me a week and I will give you a new engine!

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Lewintelamon
06.22.2015 , 09:08 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Romeugues View Post
I'm not sure why there are those in the SWTOR community resistant to the idea of having a better performing, better looking game, it's against your own interest
They're not resistant so much as having an inkling of an idea how much said "better performing, better looking" game would cost in terms of both time and money, and that devs (unless you're Blizzard and have ridiculous amounts of both resources to throw at it) aren't going to make that sort of investment willy-nilly.

Many of those crying for a new engine do so with complete ignorance for the above, as if "oh, they're a large company, they can just snap their fingers and make it happen because hey it'll make us happy!!"
It's "elder game", guys. The day this game gets an actual "endgame" is when BW pulls the plug on the servers. MMORPGs don't have an "end".

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Djiini
06.23.2015 , 11:37 AM | #80
Starting to think LoverNoFighter and DeeLaNie are the same person with how consistent they bait threads.

Anyway, uh, I don't lag at all during 8-man Ops at least on max graphics on a laptop that was made in December 2014.

So get better computers, scrubs?