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Will Fallen Empire Employ Individual Instances Heavily, like SoR?

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Will Fallen Empire Employ Individual Instances Heavily, like SoR?

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ScarletBlaze
06.20.2015 , 11:26 AM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by JamieKirby View Post
While i respect that you have your other half to play the game with and you both likely listen to every conversation together cause you both find it awesome or he is just that nice guy that waits while you listen to it all or visa versa, but sadly, i don't have that other half to play the game with and any grouping i do tends to be with players that treat it like a basic non-story related mmo and demand i skip all the story stuff.

While i think it should provide the option of playing together and having a solo mode, which i hope they eventually do for all flashpoints, when it comes to storylines, grouping can be hazardous to storyline choices because, 1: you tend to not always win the roll and 2: you are always pressured and cyber-bullied into skipping the best parts of this game just so they can finish the content as fast as possible.

It is a pity that there isn't any cool players that just don't care if you skip it or not.......the price of this game being a mmo i guess.
Yes we are both blessed to have each other and neither of us skip the cutscenes no matter how many times we have done the mission.

We have done every mission together and are in the process of leveling another alt and are in Voss on our alts. As I said we would like the option, but if the devs do it like Yavin or Ziost then we do it twice. We already decided that because for us doing it together is more important than going off by ourselves.

There are other players that do not skip the scene, I know of some of my guild members who will never insist or pressure anyone to skip the scene if they want to do it.

I am sorry you have had to deal with people not being respectful and waiting for you to listen to the cutscene if you wanted to.
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JamieKirby
06.20.2015 , 11:52 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
Yes we are both blessed to have each other and neither of us skip the cutscenes no matter how many times we have done the mission.

We have done every mission together and are in the process of leveling another alt and are in Voss on our alts. As I said we would like the option, but if the devs do it like Yavin or Ziost then we do it twice. We already decided that because for us doing it together is more important than going off by ourselves.

There are other players that do not skip the scene, I know of some of my guild members who will never insist or pressure anyone to skip the scene if they want to do it.

I am sorry you have had to deal with people not being respectful and waiting for you to listen to the cutscene if you wanted to.
I mean, i can accept and respect if players ASKED me to skip, but accepted and respected it if i said no, i mean at endgame, i can understand skipping is vital...but while leveling up? no, i only do flashpoints once per day for the commendation reward that you get, that is 20 every single 24hrs, sometimes even 30-40, if you pick up the quest from the terminal to do the flashpoint, i just don't see the point is spamming flashpoints while leveling up, i just don't see the point.

I wish all class quests gave the commendations to be honest....but i will be waiting until early access begins before i play again....

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BadOrb
06.20.2015 , 12:02 PM | #43
There's a short interview that doesn't sound too promising for you folks in this thread. Just the fact they say the word solo far too many times for my liking. O well. Let's hope 3-4 people can at least get in each others instances. Please test that part out Bioware it seems it didn't work in SOR for 3 players in a group.

http://epn.tv/all/spotlight/whats-ne...fallen-empire/

Also let's try keep this thread on the first page by Monday so they can at least see that we still want an answer to mine and the OP's questions.

Cheers,

BadOrb.
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ScarletBlaze
06.20.2015 , 12:24 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by BadOrb View Post
There's a short interview that doesn't sound too promising for you folks in this thread. Just the fact they say the word solo far too many times for my liking. O well. Let's hope 3-4 people can at least get in each others instances. Please test that part out Bioware it seems it didn't work in SOR for 3 players in a group.

http://epn.tv/all/spotlight/whats-ne...fallen-empire/

Also let's try keep this thread on the first page by Monday so they can at least see that we still want an answer to mine and the OP's questions.

Cheers,

BadOrb.
My boyfriend and I already kind of figured this would happened so we decided last night if we have to do it twice, then so be it. But there should be ways for groups of more than 2 to group up and still do it as if they dont' give people the opportunity to group up in these storylines, less people will be doing it.

I know people who have 22 alts and the most boring aspect for them is running these mission 22 times by themselves. They would like to have friends to come and do it with them. I hope that at least that is possible for them as if not , they may not do the story line more than once and that is a shame due to the time BW has put into this.

Yes solo is important in these story lines, but so is group play as well and I am not speaking about flashpoints or operations.
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JasonNH
06.20.2015 , 12:30 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
I seems to me that you and Scarlet both refuse to acknowledge the fact that when the system is programmed, it has to account or people who can make diametrically different choices (my Mass Effect example), even if it is something that most people do not do.
Yes, it can accounted for by allowing you to play the game solo. Or, if you decide to play it in a group, you live with the consequences of the decision made in the group conversation. This isn't rocket science, it already exists in the game for planet quests. Now given the hints we have from the expansion, there are certain decisions and phases that appear to be gated by your current companions and/or previous choices you have made in the game. That's perfectly fine, and they can be treated like class quests when you're grouped up with people. Our only wish is that it is reserved for those things that are truly essential and not to the extent that it was imposed in SoR.
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casirabit
06.20.2015 , 12:32 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by BadOrb View Post
There's a short interview that doesn't sound too promising for you folks in this thread. Just the fact they say the word solo far too many times for my liking. O well. Let's hope 3-4 people can at least get in each others instances. Please test that part out Bioware it seems it didn't work in SOR for 3 players in a group.

http://epn.tv/all/spotlight/whats-ne...fallen-empire/

Also let's try keep this thread on the first page by Monday so they can at least see that we still want an answer to mine and the OP's questions.

Cheers,

BadOrb.
If this is true, then some of my respect for BW has diminished because they are taking away a part of the game and essentially telling people who want to group, what your wishes are not important. They are essentially saying either do it solo or you have to do xx amount of times depending on the size of the group.

This is sad for me to see because I know people who play the game differently and they should not be forced to do this. I been here since 2008 and this is honestly the first time I see that it looks like BW doesn't care and it makes me consider what kind of company they are when they force groups to do it more than once or solo the instances.

I am very disappointed BW if this is what you are doing to these individuals.

I doesn't affect my game playing, as I solo everything anyways. I don't do operations anymore. So this is about me, it is about individuals on this page that do like to do things in groups.

Very disappointed in you BW doing this to these people.
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JasonNH
06.20.2015 , 12:35 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
As I have stated in my example, I am all for allowing people to group up on quests that require you to kill something that doesn't have any decision making or doesn't reflect any previous choices you made in a major way (like the Pirate base on Rishi). BUT, as I also stated, I would fully expect the final battle in the final chapter to be a personal phase, as I would expect it to reflect all choices *I* have made during previous chapters..
If that is what you want, run it solo. If I run in a group, then I would fully expect the final battle to reflect all the decisions that were made while I was in the group.
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ScarletBlaze
06.20.2015 , 12:40 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by JasonNH View Post
If that is what you want, run it solo. If I run in a group, then I would fully expect the final battle to reflect all the decisions that were made while I was in the group.
This. This is what I expect when playing in a group which comes down to the roleplaying aspect of the game. Though my boyfriend and I roleplay with our guild, this is basically the only part of the game that provides a roleplaying aspect in game play, at least in my opinion."
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JasonNH
06.20.2015 , 12:41 PM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by casi View Post
Very disappointed in you BW doing this to these people.
They haven't done anything to us yet, let's not grab the pitchforks or torches already.

But yes, if they turn this into a subscription based single player game where the multi-player and end game aspects are too neglected, it's the end of what has been a fun road for me otherwise.
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tmwfte
06.20.2015 , 12:42 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by ScarletBlaze View Post
...skip the cutsc...
spacebar pls

I was running a new toon a couple of months ago and queued group finder to run The Black Talon. One of the four in the group was new, said that he was new, that this was his first time ever playing SWTOR, let alone doing a flashpoint. Which was cool, it was an early Sunday morning, two of us who had run it before seemed to have the same laid back response that we'd take it as slow as the new player needed and enjoy our coffee/tes/whatever while we basically walked through it. If someone's new, or someone wants to enjoy the story in a highly story-rich game, who am I to make them feel rushed? I don't care if I've done some of the content so many times that I've got the lines memorized.

Anyway, very first line of dialogue, the fourth player, who hadn't said anything up to this point, yells out SPACEBAR!, when it doesn't happen in a couple of seconds then initiates a vote to kick the new player. I don't get some people.