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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE

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Bioware, please don't keep secrets. We Don't want an NGE
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Conundrum-NSA
06.17.2015 , 10:08 AM | #1
Many people here still remember the imfamous NGE from Star Wars Galaxies. I'm sure most of those changes sounded good on paper, but players hated them and it accelerated the games death.

Where I'm going is, please be upfront with what changes are happening and how they will be handled, things like specifics on how old content is changing and will level 60+ players bea able to access pre-KotFE planets.

Please don't wait until beta or too close to release to give this info, if you wait until then, if people hate it, it's too late to change anything.

This isn't a "DOOM" post, I'm hoping to prevent "DOOM" posts later.

Also, I know I won't get an @Bioware reply, but hopefully someone will read it and think about it.

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Infernixx
06.17.2015 , 10:10 AM | #2
Quote: Originally Posted by Conundrum-NSA View Post
Many people here still remember the imfamous NGE from Star Wars Galaxies. I'm sure most of those changes sounded good on paper, but players hated them and it accelerated the games death.

Where I'm going is, please be upfront with what changes are happening and how they will be handled, things like specifics on how old content is changing and will level 60+ players bea able to access pre-KotFE planets.

Please don't wait until beta or too close to release to give this info, if you wait until then, if people hate it, it's too late to change anything.

This isn't a "DOOM" post, I'm hoping to prevent "DOOM" posts later.

Also, I know I won't get an @Bioware reply, but hopefully someone will read it and think about it.
We're on a Hype Train, you know. And the fuel for the Hype Train is information. So, they're not going to unload all the information all at once. It's going to be a paced thing, right up into launch for maximum HYPE.

You can expect a good bit to be released by the July Cantina event in Cali, though.
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hadoken
06.17.2015 , 10:11 AM | #3
The very fact that we know as much as we do makes this impossible to be anything like the NGE.

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DOHboy
06.17.2015 , 10:11 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Conundrum-NSA View Post
Many people here still remember the imfamous NGE from Star Wars Galaxies. I'm sure most of those changes sounded good on paper, but players hated them and it accelerated the games death.

Where I'm going is, please be upfront with what changes are happening and how they will be handled, things like specifics on how old content is changing and will level 60+ players bea able to access pre-KotFE planets.

Please don't wait until beta or too close to release to give this info, if you wait until then, if people hate it, it's too late to change anything.

This isn't a "DOOM" post, I'm hoping to prevent "DOOM" posts later.

Also, I know I won't get an @Bioware reply, but hopefully someone will read it and think about it.
nothing is changing all that much...people who DONT purchase instant level 60 will still level the same way and just have a more streamlined quest path (fewer side quests for instance). but otherwise it will be the same. strongholds, factions, guilds will all still be the same.

tl;dr things will be pretty much the same the day after 4.0 as it was before 4.0
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MillionsKNives
06.17.2015 , 10:13 AM | #6
You think they could actually make major changes to the expansion at this point?

And does NGE really need to be brought up for every change in the game? I know I know, what am I thinking, of course it does.

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Conundrum-NSA
06.17.2015 , 10:15 AM | #7
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The very fact that we know as much as we do makes this impossible to be anything like the NGE.
Really? Tell me what you know, that isn't conjecture or vagueries?

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Danw
06.17.2015 , 10:16 AM | #8
I don't know about an NGE, this game engine being as crappy as it is. But this is their chance to rework the whole thing and do it right. However, given what they have already told us, including posts today, they are not fixing or doing what really is necessary. Nor do they have the time NOW to change things, they have ~4 months, at this point they better be in the final phases of development work and polishing...LOLOL, sorry, it's funny because they always seem to be working on primary content up until the end, instead of polishing.

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Conundrum-NSA
06.17.2015 , 10:18 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by MillionsKNives View Post
And does NGE really need to be brought up for every change in the game? I know I know, what am I thinking, of course it does.
Maybe because it's a valid comparison?

Either way, I see the Bioware Defense Force is currently in full force now on the forums.

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Technohic
06.17.2015 , 10:18 AM | #10
The NGE would basically be if they had everyone pay for this expansion (The Obi Wan planet thing, can't remember the name) then just after we get in it out the money playing the new stories, they then announce they are gutting the game and getting rid of all stories and combat, and gear will be worthless and we all will just have a bad FPS where you all do the same DPS in first person mode regardless of weapon and armor is all the same.
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