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tmwfte
06.16.2015 , 03:02 PM | #311
Quote: Originally Posted by Reiles_Cole View Post
Nope I don't think they have.
Many fighting one another doesn't preclude the existence of light side Sith. Moreover, you still have no references to Jedi Guardians, Consulars, etc. Again, applying the current canon to something that is specifically non-canon does not make any logical sense.

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Anaesha
06.16.2015 , 03:05 PM | #312
Let me put it this way.

UNTIL YOU START PAYING THE $77 FOR MY SUB NEITHER YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE AROUND HERE WILL TELL ME HOW TO PLAY MY CHARACTERS!!!!!

If I choose to play a LS Sith, a Neutral Sith, or a DS Sith I will and the same goes for every other class in this game.

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Reiles_Cole
06.16.2015 , 03:08 PM | #313
Quote: Originally Posted by Anaesha View Post
Let me put it this way.

UNTIL YOU START PAYING THE $77 FOR MY SUB NEITHER YOU OR ANYBODY ELSE AROUND HERE WILL TELL ME HOW TO PLAY MY CHARACTERS!!!!!

If I choose to play a LS Sith, a Neutral Sith, or a DS Sith I will and the same goes for every other class in this game.
Let me put it the way I have repeatedly. Play however the freaking way you want. But I've proven over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER AND... continues every page over that I am right.
"It is better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVN1R1Copoc

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tmwfte
06.16.2015 , 03:11 PM | #314
Quote: Originally Posted by Reiles_Cole View Post
You are so daft. I have posted the link on Guardians others have even shown you the advanced classes to consular guardian and sentinels in my stead saying "I think this is what he meant"
Do we really need to explain the difference between canon and Legends to you again?

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It is in canon saying that there are no light sith based on the fact there is no "canon" light sith yet it mentions the Sith Empire/Order killed each other
It is canon that there are a handful of Sith that we know about. That does not mean that light Sith cannot exist, just that we have too small a sample size to say anything definitive. Again, applying current canon to SWTOR makes no logical sense.

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Anaesha
06.16.2015 , 03:15 PM | #315
Quote: Originally Posted by Reiles_Cole View Post
Let me put it the way I have repeatedly. Play however the freaking way you want. But I've proven over and over and over AND OVER AND OVER AND... continues every page over that I am right.
No you REALLY HAVEN'T. All your posts say is "I'm right and you're wrong do it my way or not at all".

Lore is a guide nothing more nothing less no where is it set in stone that one must fallow Lore to the letter to the point of obsession.

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tmwfte
06.16.2015 , 03:25 PM | #316
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Dude really, get your head right, you flip flop constantly. using legends to say you are right then canon to say I'm wrong.
Again, Legends supports a breadth of time and change for the classes. Moreover, "Jedi Knight" was a common appellation to all Jedi, regardless of whether or not they adhered to that rank. The fact that SWTOR uses Jedi Knight as a class header, shows that it is indeed part of that lore. Likewise, in Legends, Light Side Sith are already shown as existing.

In current canon, we have no Jedi Consulars, no Jedi Guardians, they've not been defined or elaborated upon. There's basically only Padawans, Jedi Knights, Masters, thus throwing the entire class system out of the game. That makes no logical sense to do so. Again, with too small a sample size for Sith, in canon, you cannot effectively say that there are no light Sith ever. Once again, trying to apply current canon to something that is explicitly non-canon is like trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.

It's not flip-flopping, I'm showing you that under both sets of circumstances, your argument makes no sense.

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Reiles_Cole
06.16.2015 , 09:27 PM | #317
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Again, Legends supports a breadth of time and change for the classes. Moreover, "Jedi Knight" was a common appellation to all Jedi, regardless of whether or not they adhered to that rank. The fact that SWTOR uses Jedi Knight as a class header, shows that it is indeed part of that lore. Likewise, in Legends, Light Side Sith are already shown as existing.

In current canon, we have no Jedi Consulars, no Jedi Guardians, they've not been defined or elaborated upon. There's basically only Padawans, Jedi Knights, Masters, thus throwing the entire class system out of the game. That makes no logical sense to do so. Again, with too small a sample size for Sith, in canon, you cannot effectively say that there are no light Sith ever. Once again, trying to apply current canon to something that is explicitly non-canon is like trying to shove a square peg in a round hole.

It's not flip-flopping, I'm showing you that under both sets of circumstances, your argument makes no sense.
Their quest to gain power was ultimately the undoing of the Sith, as the dark side made them turn against one another. With their numbers reduced, the Sith were all but defeated by the Jedi. Darth Bane survived, however, and created the Rule of Two, mandating that only two Sith—a master and an apprentice—could exist at any given time, lest they fall prey to in-fighting.

It strongly implies that there were more than your "small amount" to go by that were all dark and it is no where IN CANON that light sith exist. in legends if the ranks are still jedi initiate/youngling padawan knight and master and the classes are still guardian sentinel and consular at base class then by your retarded argument you are wrong to assume this lore has any ground to stand on, regardless if "barely trained jedi created the new order" cause this order has many many old relics and holocrons they can learn from and I'm pretty sure it teaches them enough to know the jedi way that they followed 300 years earlier and thousands of years LATER...

As in yes their lore regardless of your argument is still broken, or why would you get a title as Jedi padawan knight and master in the storylines to go with the misshapen class name? Jedi guardian IS the base class it just is. Its advancement is a weapons master as legends states or jedi battle master. not jedi sentinel which is its own basics level class.
"It is better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVN1R1Copoc

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tmwfte
06.16.2015 , 09:40 PM | #318
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If you cannot comport yourself to discuss things without resorting to insults, especially highly offensive usage of a disability, you do not deserve any further reasoned response or consideration.

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tmwfte
06.16.2015 , 09:50 PM | #319
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you keep trolling to this very point
Once again, disagreeing with you is not trolling. Showing evidence to the contrary to show your argument has no merit, also not trolling.

That you're continuing to resort to flaming and insults only shows that your argument has no merit. Enjoy your head-canon, my friend, because that is solely where it will remain.

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Reiles_Cole
06.16.2015 , 09:54 PM | #320
Quote: Originally Posted by tmwfte View Post
Once again, disagreeing with you is not trolling. Showing evidence to the contrary to show your argument has no merit, also not trolling.

That you're continuing to resort to flaming and insults only shows that your argument has no merit. Enjoy your head-canon, my friend, because that is solely where it will remain.
head canon, you freaking troll is fan fiction. I have used canon to blow your stupid opinion away. I've even used your headcanon usage to prove my point in "legends" because yes dear "friend" its quite obvious the jedi recollected their old relics over the years.
"It is better to be a warrior in a garden then a gardener in a war"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVN1R1Copoc