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SWTOR should do something in honor of Christopher Lee

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SWTOR should do something in honor of Christopher Lee

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Celise
06.14.2015 , 03:20 PM | #71
Its sto all over again with the memorial stuff with Leonard Nimoy. This time its for Christopher Lee, however there was not one for Ian Abercrombie and he was the emperor of the same star wars time period as the Count of Serreno.

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06.14.2015 , 03:23 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Celise View Post
Its sto all over again with the memorial stuff with Leonard Nimoy. This time its for Christopher Lee, however there was not one for Ian Abercrombie and he was the emperor of the same star wars time period as the Count of Serreno.
people opposed a memorial for Nimoy in STO?
even though he did a lot of voice work for the game?
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Celise
06.14.2015 , 04:00 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by BrianDavion View Post
people opposed a memorial for Nimoy in STO?
even though he did a lot of voice work for the game?
opposition is not the issue. youre looking in the wrong area for an answer.

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DarthDymond
06.14.2015 , 04:16 PM | #74
Still not seeing the reason for any opposition, no one is asking for them to break the lore / timeline over this, something can be done with this era's current Count of Serenno..

A remarkable actor who had a notable role in the franchise died - suggesting that an ongoing project set in the franchise give a nice tip of the hat to his memory doesn't seem like a particularly objectionable suggestion.

Nothing would be taken away from those who don't particularly care about Lee or think he was that relevant to the game / SW universe. For anyone who genuinely thinks Ian Abercrombie was slighted by not receiving any in-game recognition at his passing, I fail to see how having the same done to Lee would be a good thing.
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06.14.2015 , 05:13 PM | #75
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The oldest role I remember seeing him in was "the Spanish captain" in the Gregory Peck movie Captain Horatio Hornblower. I think that was made in '51. Of course, that doesn't mean it was Lee's first role ever.
Both Christopher Lee and Peter Cushing/ Moff Tarkin really helped lead the way for Vampiric movies, along with other horror movies. They helped pave the way for what a lot of Hooror movies would Not have happened today without them.

Sure there are a lot of others that did a lot for the Horror picture genre. Roger Cormon (spelling), a great B-movie Horror/Science Fiction movies come to mind.

But ppl like Bella Lagosy (spelling) that started scary movies back in the 1920's, maybe even earlier. That was Way Before the word Horror in movies even existed. Keep in mind without Bella lagosy, Peter Cushing and Christopher Lee doing the movies they did, we would Not have a lot of these Horror movies ppl love today.

One thing that of course helped the Horror movie genre was the fact that Peter Cushing at least started his movies career i believe in the 40's in dramas and pretty well with them. But Directors and even some of the great Movie Moguls began to notice that Peter Cushing's face looked mean, and maybe even wicked. This was way back in the 1950's now, screenwriters and directors were right. Peter Cushing was a natural mean looking person for the New movies he would now be taking more and more til' he did just Terror or suspense pictures.

Christopher Lee followed later on, but had a much kinder and gentler face, so he was able to more dramas than Cushing, But when Christopher Lee strted doing those early Vampiric roles in the later 50's or earlier 60's that made Christopher Lee a popular Icon for Dracula/Vampiric movies that would later have him playing a good guy in a few Horror folms in the 80's.

I'm not a Fan of Horror films, but a few. But I do know some about Lees's earlier years.

To me Christopher Lee brought just as much to the Prequels and Star wars lore as most other characters, or even more with exception of the Major Players like Sidious/Palpatine, Obi wan Kenobi and the Skywalkers.

Like i have said, there are only few known Sith that can make Sith look good like Dooku did with being very handsome, Noble and a sense of honor, that in No way describes other Sith.
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leonlotus
06.14.2015 , 06:31 PM | #76
Agreed to initial post.

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TravelersWay
06.14.2015 , 08:55 PM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
Nothing would be taken away from those who don't particularly care about Lee or think he was that relevant to the game / SW universe. For anyone who genuinely thinks Ian Abercrombie was slighted by not receiving any in-game recognition at his passing, I fail to see how having the same done to Lee would be a good thing.
That's just it though - where does it end? Who has the right to say who should be "honored" in such a manner and who should not. Personally speaking, every single person listed in the credits of each and every Star Wars movie was a contributor to the success of the franchise because of the job they performed on said movie(s). Should not each and every one of them be honored in game because they helped in some way making the franchise what it is?

There will be plenty of tributes to Sir Lee in real life by many, many people who knew him better than any of us and from things he had more of an impact on than Star Wars. An in game tribute is simply not necessary nor needed.
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06.14.2015 , 10:06 PM | #78
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That's just it though - where does it end? Who has the right to say who should be "honored" in such a manner and who should not
Ultimately, the "right" belongs to the people actually producing the creative works in which such individuals are (or are not) "honored". And those content creators take their cues in making such decisions both from their own subjective judgement calls, and from feedback from their players / viewers / readers / whatever.

No one asked for in-game recognition for Richard Bonehill, who played several extras ESB and RotJ, when he passed away back in February, but there are people asking for recognition for Sir Christopher Lee. BW can take a look at that, consider their own thoughts on what is or isn't appropriate for their game and make the call accordingly.

Content creators make "yes to this" / "no to that" decisions all the time - this is no different.
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An in game tribute is simply not necessary nor needed.
Never said it was "necessary" or "needed", I am still saying I do not see any down side to doing it.
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MeNaCe-NZ
06.14.2015 , 10:23 PM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthDymond View Post
Still not seeing the reason for any opposition, no one is asking for them to break the lore / timeline over this, something can be done with this era's current Count of Serenno..

A remarkable actor who had a notable role in the franchise died - suggesting that an ongoing project set in the franchise give a nice tip of the hat to his memory doesn't seem like a particularly objectionable suggestion.

Nothing would be taken away from those who don't particularly care about Lee or think he was that relevant to the game / SW universe. For anyone who genuinely thinks Ian Abercrombie was slighted by not receiving any in-game recognition at his passing, I fail to see how having the same done to Lee would be a good thing.
Except the coding time etc. that would need to go into anything like this.

I'm still waiting for someone to point out the bit where an actor ( his job ) that died playing a minor star wars role is more deserving of a tribute in a game timeline ( that his character had absolutely no relevance to what so ever ) to anyone else that has worked on any star wars content previously.

Per the link I posted up earlier that lists everyone star wars involved that has passed away I think a wall of honour somewhere that lists there names and what they did ( more or less same as the wiki page ) would be pretty nice. Perhaps on the fleet stations since with the new KotFE information it would seem like fleet is going to be "out of character" for any one up to that point of the game anyway.

That is something I would support as it removes this "that guy is famous he deserves respect!" mentality that is annoying me about all this.

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06.15.2015 , 04:57 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by MeNaCe-NZ View Post
Except the coding time etc. that would need to go into anything like this.

I'm still waiting for someone to point out the bit where an actor ( his job ) that died playing a minor star wars role is more deserving of a tribute in a game timeline ( that his character had absolutely no relevance to what so ever ) to anyone else that has worked on any star wars content previously.

Per the link I posted up earlier that lists everyone star wars involved that has passed away I think a wall of honour somewhere that lists there names and what they did ( more or less same as the wiki page ) would be pretty nice. Perhaps on the fleet stations since with the new KotFE information it would seem like fleet is going to be "out of character" for any one up to that point of the game anyway.

That is something I would support as it removes this "that guy is famous he deserves respect!" mentality that is annoying me about all this.
I would not object in the slightest if you want to suggest to EA that they create a Wall of Honor for all the people who have ever worked on the franchise. Go right ahead and do so. If they decide to listen to you, awesome. I, for one, will not be so rude as to belittle you for the idea.

Christopher Lee was a remarkable soul, even absent his acting career. If all of us live past a century, it's a safe bet none of us will ever accomplish the things he did. No, that in itself doesn't warrant a memorial, but the reasons that do warrant it are tangible enough (and have already been given, so I won't repeat them).

Seriously - if EA decides to honor Sir Christopher in some fashion (that isn't an entire planet, obviously), no one will criticize you for deleting that stronghold decoration you're given, or tossing out the crook-handled lightsaber you get as a thank-you gift, or whatever. No one would stick a gun to your head and force you to keep them.

Where does it end? It ends where and when EA says it ends. Simple.