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BennyKrak
06.13.2015 , 01:05 AM | #31
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
You become a loser if you win warzones? I've been doing it wrong this whole time! I need to start losing to be one of the cool kids then.
Spoken like the true Supercop.
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CaptRogue
06.13.2015 , 12:39 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by Jimmajamma View Post
There is 2 of us in Lemon Party. We are leveling pub toons and are going to play pubside a little more. If you ever see anyone (of the 2 of us) in the guild <homies>, hit us up. We can group up and try to balance the scales, because like you said, most pub v imp games just aren't very competitive. As much as I love winning, triple cap games are not that fun.
Strange, because I could have swore the other night there was 4 people running in there with that Guild Tag on. Is there a mock guild of you guys??
I saw someone from homies the other day. Cool.
Yeah exactly. I like the challenge.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jimmajamma View Post
Not all premades sit there and coordinate targets and strategize, etc. For instance, last night we had a pretty interesting conversation about what caused American corporations to shift their focus towards short-term goals and stock valuation, and the impact that is having on American innovation and our ability to compete internationally.

Other times we just discuss Taco Bell.
ROFL Exactly! I was in a "Premade" if you want to call it the other night. My friends from another guild & I were queue syncing (they had a full group) & in Mumble! *gasp*
It did not help us win & we were not rolling over people left & right. We were more shocked at how we were getting rolled. In all the "pre-mades" I've been in before we will call out inc to each other but for the most part we just talk, or get silent as we PvP then resume convo after match.

On the Taco Bell subject, better discussion next time would be the new pizza @ Pizza Hut! Have you seen it?! lol
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thatPERSON
06.13.2015 , 03:05 PM | #33
what is it called when i 1v4 a premade in 10-29 pvp? its called actually being good and not using premades as an excuse for being bad




^true story, lowbie guardian tank, 1v4 on node in civil war

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Bobbafatter
06.13.2015 , 06:22 PM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by -Holmes View Post
You become a loser if you win warzones? I've been doing it wrong this whole time! I need to start losing to be one of the cool kids then.
You're screwed as a premade loser, you'll never be one of the cool kids ...

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-Holmes
06.13.2015 , 07:17 PM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Bobbafatter View Post
You're screwed as a premade loser, you'll never be one of the cool kids ...
Oh, so I gather you know that from experience.
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Sundragon
06.13.2015 , 11:30 PM | #36
All I know is that on the IMP side (pre-60 PvP), I've occasionally inspected the gear of some of the players. Most of the players don't have relics, half the players don't even have an offhand item, and probably half don't use implants. Now, I get it if you're level 35 or something, but when you see level 50-59 players without these items you just can't help but shake your head. Ironically, the least geared people often seem to complain the most in ops chat when losing.
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06.13.2015 , 11:36 PM | #37
Quote: Originally Posted by Sundragon View Post
All I know is that on the IMP side (pre-60 PvP), I've occasionally inspected the gear of some of the players. Most of the players don't have relics, half the players don't even have an offhand item, and probably half don't use implants. Now, I get it if you're level 35 or something, but when you see level 50-59 players without these items you just can't help but shake your head. Ironically, the least geared people often seem to complain the most in ops chat when losing.
Offhands are bugged and often to not display.
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BennyKrak
06.14.2015 , 04:06 AM | #38
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Offhands are bugged and often to not display.
You don't display...
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Evolutionism
06.14.2015 , 12:07 PM | #39
I wish I could "like" some of these posts as if it were frickin' Facebook! LOL!

@ Domi: When we manage to actually get 8 people together, yes we try to even split the groups up with equal damage/heals/tanks since more than half the time we end up against each other vice same teams. This makes the TS conversations very quiet if the opposing team guildies don't swap TS channels. If we end up on the same team, we send one to each node to get an idea of the strength of the person/people guarding/capping that node. Then we focus on capping the 2 seemingly weaker nodes and holding those. As for targets, usually one of the stronger DPS players will start calling out targets and occasionally we'll even swap the reticle/target over the head of who we're on so we can all hit the same target. As for CCs, it depends on who i'm playing with. When i'm running with some we have a predetermined "You stun first, i'll stun 2nd" prearranged so we don't waste a stun. But most of the time it's just a roll of the dice for us. We try to call out if we're stunning or AOE stunning but it doesn't always happen. When it comes to burning 1 player down, it only takes 2 good DPS'ers to kill the target off in the time their two 4 second stuns elapse. If there's a healer trying to keep them alive, then 3 can do it without much trouble. Keep in mind this is within the lowbie bracket. At higher levels, players get their debuffs/shields/self heals etc and then it takes either more players or longer to burn an individual target down.

@ Kevin & Zore: Almost everyone that has toons in Blue Octagon also has toons in Red Octagon. We occasionally swap to Red Octagon but play Blue Oct characters more often since we have the guild flagship unlocked on that side and not on the Red side. We're working towards conquest points and unlocking new areas on the flagship. It is funny though when someone gets all quiet in TS and we realize why when they're suddenly on their Red side toon and whippin' up on us in the WZ's! :-P

For the most part though, the tactics that Kevin mentioned are not necessary until you hit 60. Our premades are much more similar to what some of the other guys said: shootin' the breeze with friends and occasionally calling out incs to a node or declaring which target we're on.

@ Dax (& Sundragon when it comes to gear): I agree.... You're going to die a lot when you first start out regardless of how long you've been playing. You have to be level 19 or 20 to even be fully equipped when it comes to gear. Gear makes a HUGE difference. I take the time to gear my toon out with blue quality or better (to include augments). Some say this is a waste of time since you level so quickly, but my motto is, "You can't bolster what isn't there." I firmly believe that spending the time & $$ on your gear is as important as you skill. And on the gear note, that includes the hardware you're gaming with. Buying an MMO mouse and getting familiar with it is a complete game changer. You can easily tell the "keyboard turner" and "point and click" types in the warzones. But like you said, you're going to die at the lower levels regardless of everything mentioned above. You have to just get back on that horse and ride again. I like your outlook on this one Dax!

@ Bobba: If you read my first post and can't see any logic to why we continue to do premades in the lowbie bracket then there is no chance of talking any sense into you. I will resign that you win and I will continue to be a "true loser" & "never one of the cool kids." Thank you for your remarkable insight.

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FilthyNoongar
06.14.2015 , 12:37 PM | #40
As someone who plays PvP only in a group(stays in denova) low level PvP is a great way to teach people the basics. We use it as a way to help PvE people get into PvP without being killed by 3 shad/sin 10000 times each match. When we come up against another group its all the more fun and Blue Octagon is great to pit yourself against.