TOR and canon

I'm looking, and I see nothing but trash piled on trash because they didn't care enough about canon. That's why they had to reboot so many times because they let it get out of hand.

I don't often agree with Tux, but when I do I drink Dos Equis.

Pfft...not at all...they had to reboot because their audience is ever changing and their end goal is $$$$, not continuity.

We shall drink together my friend.

Keep telling yourself that if you need to. Your precious EU is dead dead dead.

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They reboot because they write themselves into a corner with stupid concepts and bad storylines and can't do anything but start over. People want good stories, as you said, and canon is a tool to help do that.

You've never said about a story "It would be cool if that happened"? Or "I wish they didn't do this"? Never found out something about a story later and said "That makes it so much better"? These are all examples of canon mattering.

Canon also matters if you want to talk about the world with other people: what something meant, the implications, the possibilities. These discussions can be contentious enough without even being able to agree on what happened.

I still have all 3 hard cover books, the 3 graphic novels, and the audio books. My EU is alive and well because I'm not the one who gives a flip about continuity...especially after the whole Vong debacle.

I understand the desires for it, but there are far too many bad decisions made that screw things up...ie, death of chewbacca, death of superman, death of Jacen Solo, destruction of Coruscant (and other worlds) by the Vong...those stories backed Disney into a hole just as much as anything in the DC Universe does.

I agree that some consistency and continuity is important, but it needs to be taken in context...the context that it's all subject to change.

EDIT: And...just be glad you're a Star Wars fan where we've had only ONE (semi) reboot in 30 years...cuz in that same time, I've seen Superman reinvented at least 4 times, Spider-man like 9 times, and every freaking one has to kill Uncle Ben the same freaking way...like we don't get that he's dead. Batman has been played by about 20 different "actors" and every Batman movie ever made seems to think they should re-dramatize Bruce Wayne's parents death. Geezus...at least with us, we have the freaking main story as canon - Rebel vs Empire, Luke vs. Darth, Jedi vs Sith...if DC Comics had bought Star Wars, we'd have to watch Darth Vader die again in slightly more dramatic way in every freaking new movie...

Well, that was the EU getting out of hand. I think most EU fans knew that the post-RotJ EU was in dire need of some changes. Just hoped it would be surgical instead of a complete purge.

I'm not terribly bothered by what happened to the EU, but the level of disrespect I've seen some give it is annoying. Star Wars without the EU would not have sustained my interest for two decades. I just hope the new Star Wars canon is handled with more care.

Reboots should be the nuclear option, though. They should never let the canon get so bad that it's required.

We're largely in agreement. I think that, in a way, we were fortunate George retained all rights to Star Wars for as long as he did...that's what fostered the expansion of the EU to where it is today. And his insistence that he was done with Star Wars movies, allowed for people to become more attached to the canon that was being created.

Now that Star Wars has become a brand for Disney, I highly doubt we'll ever have 30 years without rebooting again.