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Nerf backlash ("mez" bubble) utility for sorcs!

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Nerf backlash ("mez" bubble) utility for sorcs!

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Lhancelot
06.04.2015 , 11:03 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by skarlson View Post
Many sorcs run the root over the blind or they have to give up something else like heal2full barrier to get it. It is something that will never hit you but unless you are just blind or incompetent it is not not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. I am rooted, lifted, flashbanged, numerous other active ccs way more...WAY MORE than I am mezzed by a sorcs mez bubble. I see it from both sides of the equation and I have no issue with it.

Half the classes are unaffected unless due to range the other half can meta around it minimizing it's effect just as with any other cc. On top of this it should be noted you MUST eat some cc sometimes and this is no different. You can use one of the various immunities or breaks on this or a flashbang instead. META
^^^This.

I don't even play my sorc or sage now, and find the bubble stun nearly unnoticeable on all the other classes I play. I think on my jugg, who I am 59 on now, I might have had one time where the mez actually inhibited me and I consciously thought about the bubble stun and was annoyed. This experience pales in comparison to so many other aspects in PVP that annoy me. I see so many other, much larger fish that need fried in PVP than sorc bubble-stun.
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MusicRider
06.04.2015 , 11:04 AM | #52
PS: I did say that some melee have no issues with it, and these are the ones I am mostly worried about... plus yes increased cc immunities; hence I actually never take it. So please feel free to do what you want with backlash. As I said I support Nala's idea .

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MusicRider
06.04.2015 , 11:06 AM | #53
PPS: I bet my lightsaber that the OP is a main sorc and wants to swap the places of backlash with a T3 utility. This suggestion was in the first post. It took me a while to realise .

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Master-Nala
06.04.2015 , 11:10 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by MusicRider View Post
PPS: I bet my lightsaber that the OP is a main sorc and wants to swap the places of backlash with a T3 utility. This suggestion was in the first post. It took me a while to realise .
Nonsense friend, MusicRider. I took the OPs suggestion as a heartfelt and valid plea to move the dastardly Backlash to the Heroic tier and move something less useful like Force Haste down. While a severe nerf, it is probably warranted to help out our Knight/Warrior friends.
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MusicRider
06.04.2015 , 11:15 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
Nonsense friend, MusicRider. I took the OPs suggestion as a heartfelt and valid plea to move the dastardly Backlash to the Heroic tier and move something less useful like Force Haste down. While a severe nerf, it is probably warranted to help out our Knight/Warrior friends.
Let me be clear that I am not trolling you, in fact your suggestion is the only reasonable solution. The only thing I differ in this case (rare with your posts) is that such a swap will buff sorcs (most welcome) as pretty much all t3 utilities are more attractive (to me at least, heck I even take haste for wzs now:P) but unfortunately it seems people don't realise it. But who knows, maybe I am the one wrong here.

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teclado
06.04.2015 , 11:26 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by skarlson View Post
Have you ever tried timing your burst for you know when bubble is down. There is this thing called 10m range which puts you outside bubble stun range.
It's no big deal actually. Maras generally can't even get within 10m of a sorc, anyway. But, for example, carnage maras have dual sabre throw (30m) and devastating blast (10m) and...that's about it. So I guess maras can just sit back and wait for the bubble to drop on its own, or just not try to fight sorcs.

Veng juggs get a free pass after leap. Ranged classes can easily be immune. I think Concealment, Sins, and Maras are the only ones really affected by it. PTs can stay at 10m for the most part.

I'm not really advocating anything. I think we can pretty much all agree that there are some fairly massive disparities right now. I think Sorcs need a sufficient amount of tools to keep melee classes off of them, but I also think that it's a bit overboard right now. I played quite a bit of sage prior to force barrier, in the days of smashmonkeys. It was not fun. The tables have turned now.

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skarlson
06.04.2015 , 12:15 PM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by MusicRider View Post
When someone else attacks the same target and thinks unleashing their burst is a brilliant idea you get also mezzed before having time to move away.

Too bad there isn't a friendly cc ability cause mezz friendly and proceed on my own would have been more effective.
If you are in range yes but if you went into range without knowing if the particular sorc or sage had bubble mez utility before popping the bubble the first time to see you failed meta. You cannot control when other players burst but you can control how close you are while the bubble is up. I know you are not trying to make excuses for people from your prior posts so I am merely stating said people just failed the meta. This is again their fault not the sorc bub or even the player popping it.
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-Garmonbozia
06.04.2015 , 12:26 PM | #58
The truth is a good player isn't typically affected by the bubble stun on their own more than the one time it takes to realize how that sorc/sage is spec'd. Even on our melee characters we have some options. I like to break that bubble at a bit of distance with either a throw, or force choke/stasis and stepping away to someone else for a second. That isn't to say another meleetard isn't going to blind you nearby, but the bubble stun isn't op like it used to be when you could put it on your whole team, and it certainly doesn't stop you from killing said sorc/sage.

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Lalainnia
06.04.2015 , 12:33 PM | #59
I remember when bubble stun used to work on teammates after bubbling them lol.
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skarlson
06.04.2015 , 02:07 PM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Master-Nala View Post
Nonsense friend, MusicRider. I took the OPs suggestion as a heartfelt and valid plea to move the dastardly Backlash to the Heroic tier and move something less useful like Force Haste down. While a severe nerf, it is probably warranted to help out our Knight/Warrior friends.
It doesn't need a nerf but I guess I could compromise on this and support nala's suggestion. It would be a difficult adjustment but I would prolly be able to make it.
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