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TheJollyRogers
06.02.2015 , 02:31 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Azurestone View Post
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Wall of text crits me for 22k
Didn't crit you for 22k. He opened with corrosive dart instead.
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Exeeter
06.02.2015 , 03:19 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by IsserWoloch View Post
Uhhhhh... Let me just push my jaw closed before I drool all over my keyboard and figure out where to start here.

No. No please do not spread corrosive dart before starting single target damage. I'm going to skip right over the fact that as the best solo class in the game, you really ought to be guarding, or taking their node, capping their door, responding to calls, etc. We'll assume someone else is doing that, and you plan on spending the whole game in mid.

What you're doing is generally referred to as "fluff damage". This is damage that, although it makes your numbers bigger, doesn't really accomplish much in the fight. Most weak AOE and dots fit into this category. Your numbers go up, but your damage is easily soaked up by aoe heals. Now, you may be looking at sorcerers, hatred sins, lethality and thinking "their fluff damage isn't useless, why is mine?". The difference is that their fluff is rotational. They do not *lose* anything spreading their damage around. Deathfield spreads their dots, but will be used anyway, chain lightning is an AOE that hits a single target hard as well, and the fact that corrosive grenade hits the two people next to the operative's primary target is just, well, fluff. Concealment does not work like this. You can stick on a single target, *or* spread corrosive dart.

So what *should* you be doing? In the seven GCDs it takes you to spread your dot, there's a good chance I've already killed someone. Or I'm glued to a healer, and I guarantee forcing him to single target heal himself and kite, as opposed to freecast, is helping the team more then having 7 corrosive darts ticking. Yes, being in the thick of things, you will take more damage. You will also die more. You survive longer playing the way you do because no one cares about the concealment operative skirting around the edges of the fight. They care about the operative repeatedly murdering their healer, or their squishy ranged dps.

Regarding opening from stealth. Is it as big a deal as when we still had hidden strike? No. Is it still good? Yes. Opening from stealth allows you to sap a target before you open, gets you an extra 1-2k damage on backstab, and most importantly a free tactical advantage, otherwise you *will* be starved for TA during your rotation. It also surprises people, and inexperienced players will often forget to pop a defensive until it's too late. (Or equally good, panic and pop *all* defensives at the same time).

TLDR: Dead squishy > corrosive dart spam



You should probably look up cortex. Same with intelligible. The biggest word is not necessarily the best word to use, and some of them are about as wrong as your operative play.


Edit: damnit someone beat me to most of this. RIP me.
Edit2: If this is a troll, and I really hope it is, then I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite troll on the Citadel.
Edit3: For the love of god man, look up intelligible, read the definition, and then use intelligent instead. Second time now. Looks like another point for cortex as well.
Oh I assure you it has little to do with how you formulate your forum posts.

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BigDumbViking
06.02.2015 , 04:38 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Warlord_Maliken View Post
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Really? Why are you asking this? Of course I realize that the traditional role for the concealment operative is to initiate @ melee from stealth via backstab, whereas the sorcerer cannot stealth, and attacks from range. The whole point I have conveyed from the beginning is that the most efficient route to take in warzone pvp with the concealment operative is to actually initiate from afar and apply corrosive dart to all enemies in the area in most situations, and that that is a paradoxical directive (not working as intended i hope). Why do you waste time like this? Are you genuinely confused at my data and proposals? Did you read my comments?
Dude... You're the only psychologist in here obviously. Nice troll though.
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BigDumbViking
06.02.2015 , 04:51 PM | #64
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Warlord_Maliken
06.02.2015 , 06:40 PM | #65
you guys hurt my feelings. congratulations. i am leaving.
bunch of meanie faces

I dont need to see a doctor. All i am doing is presenting my method and saying that it is more efficient, because it is. I am almost always #1 damage, and usually by a loooong shot, & i win most matches. I simultaneously play objectives, cc/ninja, etc. I have been clear on this over the last few pages of this thread. I offered for others to try my method out, it works, and its easy. Its paradoxical to the original role that the concealment operative is suppose to play, but its better. You must find it difficult, taking authority as the truth rather than truth as the authority. Bioware is the authority here, they laid out the directives, only the concealment operative's is a paradox. Silly auto pilots. I'm 'sick' for not thinking like a hive mind. Get outta here.

the data has been presented, feel free to massage yourselves via ridiculing me. Just take this in to consideration.

#'s don't mean a thing. whole communities burned 'witches' not long ago in our time. the hive mind is gross.
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Those who matter already know it anyway, i just cant figure out why only a very small % of our species have third eyes. Goodbye auto pilots! <3
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TheJollyRogers
06.02.2015 , 07:57 PM | #66
#BioWareOperativeConspiracyTheory
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Fellow-Canadian
06.02.2015 , 09:20 PM | #67
Ya, folks need to stop feeding the troll. If he really is genuine about his "strat" I sincerely hope he gives it a try if he's on the other team in my next warzone.
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zZeroAgent
06.02.2015 , 09:27 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Warlord_Maliken View Post
you guys hurt my feelings. congratulations. i am leaving.
bunch of meanie faces

I dont need to see a doctor. All i am doing is presenting my method and saying that it is more efficient, because it is. I am almost always #1 damage, and usually by a loooong shot. I simultaneously play objectives, cc/ninja, etc. I have been clear on this over the last few pages of this thread. I offered for others to try my method out, it works, and its easy. Its paradoxical to the original role that the concealment operative is suppose to play, but its better. You must find it difficult, taking authority as the truth rather than truth as the authority. Bioware is the authority here, they laid out the directives, only the concealment operative's is a paradox. Silly auto pilots. I'm 'sick' for not thinking like a hive mind. Get outta here.

the data has been presented, feel free to massage yourselves via ridiculing me. Just take this in to consideration.

#'s don't mean a thing. whole communities burned 'witches' not long ago in our time. the hive mind is gross.
Galileo Galileo Galileo, LET ME GO!
Those who matter already know it anyway, i just cant figure out why only a very small % of our species have third eyes. Goodbye auto pilots! <3
if you're so legit, show us your ranked stats

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IsserWoloch
06.02.2015 , 09:34 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by Exeeter View Post
Oh I assure you it has little to do with how you formulate your forum posts.
Sorry my post is all twisted around bro, people were typing walls of text faster then i could keep up. Also, dude is using paradox a dozen times in a single paragraph, and *my* post is hard to read?

Quote: Originally Posted by Fellow-Canadian View Post
Ya, folks need to stop feeding the troll. If he really is genuine about his "strat" I sincerely hope he gives it a try if he's on the other team in my next warzone.
This one, troll or no, I really hope continues to get fed. 11/10.
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Warlord_Maliken
06.02.2015 , 11:06 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Fellow-Canadian View Post
Ya, folks need to stop feeding the troll. If he really is genuine about his "strat" I sincerely hope he gives it a try if he's on the other team in my next warzone.
lol. i mean. im #1 damage almost always, usually by a long shot, and i win most of my matches. i really dont think you want me on the enemy team. on any of my characters.

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Zzeroagent: "If you're so legit, show us your ranked stats"
I don't need to prove my value. I don't have numerous screenshots of 'victories' and scoreboards #'s, or videos of me ninja'ing nodes like a vampiric sasquatch. Sorry. You'll just have to try my methods out for yourself. *shrugs* Also, all i ever claimed was that this route is superior in warzones, not ranked, not in duels, not in pve, etc. Don't be a silly willy.

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TheJollyRogers: "Didn't crit you for 22k. He opened with corrosive dart instead."
Blasphemy. How dare you.
"The Sith know him as The Golden Sasquatch Of Korriban. The Jedi call him The Vicious Manbearpig in their tongue. His signature move is Sasquatch Strike. When you see this, you must run." ~Master Gnost Dural
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