Scoundrel ranting

Your above text is insane. Your original stance regarding my method vs the traditional route has already been stated. I gave you my data and all you did was repeat a line representing your original stance. I am not being rude, i am just stating what is so. Secondly, you can still hold your opinion after seeing the data i posted, that is ok. I said things like, 'test it yourself! it works!" with powerful claims that it is a superior route to take in warzones, and that its superiority can be proven as fact if you but test it vs the traditional method over say, 10 warzones or so. I also say that with my method, one also carries out the same goals of (a) burning enemy healer and (b) peeling dps'ers. You sacrifice a few seconds before doing so is all, and its definitely worth it, especially when you have others doing the same thing, which is extremely discombobulating for healers. Coming back and saying:
TheJollyRogers: "The problem is that GCDs aren't free" is just frivolous. Any conscious being that has played this game knows that, and doesn't need to hear it. It does not aid your already obvious stance on the matter. Its like coming out with a new product, and saying that your competitors aren't selling their (similar) product for free, but that they are charging money for their product too, while not even stating how much. Why do this.

I mentioned the sorcerer two times because their primary directive (their traditional route, will you) is to use my method. There is no paradox with the sorcerer in warzone pvp, and they happen to perform exceptionally well right now. To clarify this, the sorcerer does not have a weird alternative dps route that encourages them to use Thrash (melee strike). That is what I mean by the paradox variable.
In saying so, I am not comparing them to the operative in regard to efficiency as you seem to claim, but rather the similarities b/t directives (that is - applying my unconventional route with the operative ((corrosive dart spreading)) with the conventional route of the sorcerer).

Really? Why are you asking this? Of course I realize that the traditional role for the concealment operative is to initiate @ melee from stealth via backstab, whereas the sorcerer cannot stealth, and attacks from range. The whole point I have conveyed from the beginning is that the most efficient route to take in warzone pvp with the concealment operative is to actually initiate from afar and apply corrosive dart to all enemies in the area in most situations, and that that is a paradoxical directive (not working as intended i hope). Why do you waste time like this? Are you genuinely confused at my data and proposals? Did you read my comments?
again........
1. Yes. The primary function (or directive as previously stated) for the concealment operative is indeed single target burst damage from stealth @ melee range.
2. The primary function (or directive as previously stated) for the concealment operative is counter-intuitive in most warzone situations due to the squandered potential that is paradoxically exposed when comparing other available routes in the arsenal. One of which is to initiate from afar and apply corrosive dart to all enemies in the area in most situations; for some situations the player would be more wise to CC and take a node rather than applying the d.o.t.s.. These are exceptions - exceptions that occur relatively often when working with synergistic team-mates (premade/mini-premade/vets).
3. The idea of 'miming the sorcerer by manual dot-spreading' is an inaccurate perception. It is rather that you simply take the most efficient route in warzone pvp with the arsenal given unto your advanced class and spec. It just so happens, as i argue, that my unconventional route is indeed the most efficient. This has nothing to do with miming other classes.

Congratulations! Just throwing this in there, again: my described method does not stop you from doing this. that has been made clear on numerous occasions. See spoiler if you need elaboration.


For some situations the player would be more wise to CC and take a node rather than applying the d.o.t.s., these are exceptions - exceptions that occur relatively often when working with synergistic team-mates (premade/mini-premade/vets)...... Why are you dealing in absolute? I assume you are intelligible. My method doesn't mean you have no brain and follow it through illogically at all cost. I have stated this numerous times, my original post was clear on this. These things shouldn't even have to be stated, much like some of your superfluous comments. Why must we babble? Critical Thinking can resolve much of this.

We dont need explosive probe for burst though and if we still did that would be well OP. Its music to my ears when I read Lethality/Ruffian arnt a big threat, ill just keep my DoT's on and burst players like you who think we can be ignored then you wonder why that burst just floored you :-). A DoT spreading maniac with great survivability is better than someone waiting in spawn for barrier to disappear.

hmm. on my healer, I find them more of an annoyance than anything else. on my BH and jugg dpsers, I find they're difficult to solo but weak dmg so...meh. pretty easy to burst down on the PT with 10-30m range, a grapple, 2 stuns, and super speed HO though.

To be fair I think any class fighting a jugg is gonna have a hard time :P, I would say we struggle more with PT due to HO and harder burst.

To beat a jugg is fairly easy though but long winded, usually get him to pop all their abilities then let DoT's tick away as you hide behind walls etc and wait for fight 2 when jugg is 50ish% health and abilities all used up.

Warlord ive never tried your tactic but not sure why you dont just play Lethality/Ruffian if DoT spreading is what you do alot, it would be better for your team aswell and the class has decent burst. It seems a waste playing your class to something a ruffian/lethality class can do much better.

I'm not interested in engaging your wall of text that focuses on my manner of speaking to you and not actual game mechanics.

In the time it takes for you to apply 4-5 corrosive darts to your opponent's team, the operative on the other team has placed volatile substance, veiled strike (with 6 bonus), backstab and a laceration on your healer. That is enough to finish off a player in full dark reaver if the backstab and laceration crit (the VS is a 100% critical). You've achieved very little in comparison during that time. In fact, because you've put DoTs on all those players, no one can peel for your healer without hard stuns, meaning he has to eat all that damage at once.

I'm going to agree with the above poster and say you probably should just be playing Lethality.

You are insufferable

1. the 'wall of text' isn't focusing on your 'manner of speaking', its focusing on the data from both of us. You need to stop attaching yourself to the data, as i have previously stated in one of my spoilers (its communicating biasly, which is evil).

Spoiler

Me \\\ Data \\\ You

NOT

me(+)
♥
data -------> ----------> You(-)

I____II___ III____IV

2. My 'wall of text' IS absolutely, factually, objectively, focusing on game mechanics. Specifically the superiority of my unconventional method of initiating with corrosive dart from a distance as compared to the norm. The paradox of the current mechanic setup, etc.
3. You are retreating, but before doing so you are trying to vilify me, and i don't like this. You are saying i am focusing on your manner of speaking? Utter none sense and you should take that back.
4. STOP calling me a witch because i oppose your view! Really, its wrong. Im not an effigy. I'm not focusing on your manner of speaking and attacking you! I quoted you!!!! I mean... honestly. I'm not using a tone here, its just text.................................
5. Most of what i was doing in those paragraphs, sadly, was correcting inaccurate perceptions and accusations. That is a good thing. The truth should reign. I say this while also saying that my method is not 100% absolute and i am not imposing it on anyone, i am merely conveying and defending its values. Unfortunately, again, I am mostly correcting inaccurate perceptions and accusations to my previous data, which is sort of saddening but I don't mind. There is nothing wrong with this, in fact its a good thing.

Sure. You can recommend lethality. In fact i love that spec. Lethality is actually even more efficient with my method.
This strays from the cortex of what we were discussing, but its a fun side notion i guess. It really is irrelevant.

I'm sorry if miniature paragraphs that involve quoting and data accuracy scare you. I'm sorry your brain finds that insufferable. But sadly, you are not alone in this pattern. Many people in the real world also hate the revelation of data purity. Its sort of like neurological weights. If you don't lift with your third eye (if you even have one), then someone like me comes along and quotes, brings in relative data, facts, and opinions, and that is like throwing a 300 pound weight on you, when you can only lift say 100 pounds. This is likely why you find it insufferable. Again, you are not alone in doing so.

Uhhhhh... Let me just push my jaw closed before I drool all over my keyboard and figure out where to start here.

No. No please do not spread corrosive dart before starting single target damage. I'm going to skip right over the fact that as the best solo class in the game, you really ought to be guarding, or taking their node, capping their door, responding to calls, etc. We'll assume someone else is doing that, and you plan on spending the whole game in mid.

What you're doing is generally referred to as "fluff damage". This is damage that, although it makes your numbers bigger, doesn't really accomplish much in the fight. Most weak AOE and dots fit into this category. Your numbers go up, but your damage is easily soaked up by aoe heals. Now, you may be looking at sorcerers, hatred sins, lethality and thinking "their fluff damage isn't useless, why is mine?". The difference is that their fluff is rotational. They do not *lose* anything spreading their damage around. Deathfield spreads their dots, but will be used anyway, chain lightning is an AOE that hits a single target hard as well, and the fact that corrosive grenade hits the two people next to the operative's primary target is just, well, fluff. Concealment does not work like this. You can stick on a single target, *or* spread corrosive dart.

So what *should* you be doing? In the seven GCDs it takes you to spread your dot, there's a good chance I've already killed someone. Or I'm glued to a healer, and I guarantee forcing him to single target heal himself and kite, as opposed to freecast, is helping the team more then having 7 corrosive darts ticking. Yes, being in the thick of things, you will take more damage. You will also die more. You survive longer playing the way you do because no one cares about the concealment operative skirting around the edges of the fight. They care about the operative repeatedly murdering their healer, or their squishy ranged dps.

Regarding opening from stealth. Is it as big a deal as when we still had hidden strike? No. Is it still good? Yes. Opening from stealth allows you to sap a target before you open, gets you an extra 1-2k damage on backstab, and most importantly a free tactical advantage, otherwise you *will* be starved for TA during your rotation. It also surprises people, and inexperienced players will often forget to pop a defensive until it's too late. (Or equally good, panic and pop *all* defensives at the same time).

TLDR: Dead squishy > corrosive dart spam

You should probably look up cortex. Same with intelligible. The biggest word is not necessarily the best word to use, and some of them are about as wrong as your operative play.


Edit: damnit someone beat me to most of this. RIP me.
Edit2: If this is a troll, and I really hope it is, then I'm Commander Shepard and this is my favorite troll on the Citadel.
Edit3: For the love of god man, look up intelligible, read the definition, and then use intelligent instead. Second time now. Looks like another point for cortex as well.

Don't bother, Isser. He will just write up another wall of gibberish claiming that you're trying to turn him into an effigy or something.

Wall of text crits me for 22k

Of course I did, savoring every word.