Scoundrel ranting

So... does anyone other than me and a few friends have problems with operatives/scoundrels being absolutely *********** overpowered ?
Nevermind the spec -and I'm gonna exagerate a bit on this... or not- but being able to nail you down with stealth, roots, op crits, armor penetration, and if you survive all this by a somehow merciful miracle, they HEAL THEMSELVE while continuing their dps on you.
If you ever manage to encounter only healer specs, you can just watch and enjoy the show while they heal a full team and run all around without being bothered by anything. When you're in a not-so-idiot team for once, you can hope a little focus on them, they don't even care, just vanish/ evade/ roll, and come back two seconds after.

This is after having a nice showdown with a 5 scoundrels team on Novare AND Alderaan, where they didn't give **** about our focus, took three nodes (two on Alderaan, yay us.) and just hold us hostages like that.

I won't say they're over-powered, but I will say that I usually have more difficulty dealing with them than most other classes. But I'm an OP Sorcerer, so there's that

They're only scary in packs

I would say the operative to scoundrel ratio is a bit higher to be honest. For every scoundrel there is a boat load of operatives. As a player who has recently given up on commando, and moved to scoundrel / gunslinger, I can say with 100 % certainty that the class is a bit ridiculous in certain situations.

As sent I only hate snipers more But seriously speaking, they aren't that OP. You just need to know how to defeat them *cough* immobilize all the time *cough*. Btw ops didn't ask for the hot heals, most of them preferred the casted heal. They aren't the FOTM class, those are pt, sorc and ASSA.

the dps is good but can be countered easy enough..
about healers..........people fraking learn to interupt those kolto waves..and don't forget them completely when they vanish..they are not going to leave the wz

When it comes to scoundrels/operatives, it really depends on the players. A bad player will just annoy you, while a good player will kill every other class in a 1v1.

I'm curious what class you play? Operative (all specs) has IMO the highest skill cap in the game currently (although that isn't saying much nowadays). What may appear as "op" is usually quite calculated. Granted, Concealment's rotation was dumbed down in 3.0 so even a monkey can put up good burst, but knowing how to survive and be a real offensive threat on an Op takes a lot of awareness.

As for Operative DPS, roll is very powerful and one of their best defensive CDs. Since it is on the GCD, thats a GCD they aren't directly attacking you. If they're Concealment, they resist everything for 1.5 after each roll. You simply don't attack/CC them during this time. If they happen to double roll away, that's good for you: they're retreating, and for the next 10 seconds they're susceptible to getting pooped on. Stun locking an Operative is probably the easiest way to kill them, or at the very least forcing a CC break/Camo. Keep track of their use of DCDs, and focus them before their breaker has come off CD.

If you're going against a Lethality Operative, you probably shouldn't waste your time tunneling them until they get in close to spam Cull. Their DoTs did not scale well at all in 3.0, no Explosive Probe for burst, and generally speaking they aren't a big threat. Unless you can root or chain stun a Leth Op and burst him down, they'll lolroll away and heal to full.(if you're not aware their roll procs a free Kolto Infusion once every 10sec). Remember, Operative's self healing is all on the GCD, so those are GCDs they are not attacking.

Operative healing is powerful but is quite bad when dealing with burst damage. The best way to deal with Operative healers is to CC them whenever they don't have full resolve. Their HoTs will fall off and their team will die soon enough. In PuG regs this isn't very easy since everyone is just hitting buttons with no coordination, but try to do your part.

I realize it's frustrating to play against 5 operatives because they're so sneaky. However, I'd be willing to bet that you'd be equally frustrated going against 5 AP PT's.

I'd be exaggerating if I said that even a half-decent operative is damn near impossible to pin down and kill on my mm sniper. but they're our hard counter so I can accept that. but for every good operative or scoundrel there are 5 or 6 bad ones who don't know how to kite, heal and los and get themselves global'd. I think pvping with other classes gives you a lot of perspective on the strengths and weaknesses of other classes sorting out the truly OP ones from those who shine in certain conditions and environments. Right now it just seems crazy because there are so many of them and they love traveling around warzones in packs with shadows and assassins.

I love playing my scrapper scoundrel because I feel I can kill anybody and survive anything. But like it was mentioned above the class has a really high skill cap. A scoundrel's survival in PVP has a lot more to do with player skill than passive defenses.